Sherrill Backbone

oh yes he did! Chopper wants to talk sh*t , lets see what he's got ! Chopper , learn how to back up youR sh*t talk . Knot a big deal if you can't . The bone though , really helps out the un riggers , the people un tying the knots . we can have a untying and tying comp , we'll call it THE TREEBUZZ KNOT BOWL
 
Righto Riggs,

I'm on the next flight over to compete in the TREBUZZ KNOT BOWL!

I was tieing and untieing knots with my umbilical cord in my mothers womb, I tie fast!

Better start rubbing your wishbone for luck, gramps!

LOL
 
Yo sponge Bob , find the pineapple . You'll lose , you tied a couple knots with your buddies , laughed , and you probally won, practice , practice , practice , game face ! You might be Chopper over there but you'd be Chipper over here ! Simon Says ...........? I didnt grow up with velcro sneakers ( cmon Malone I hope you have game )
 
As far as rigging with a biner goes on bigger pieces and logs I still use a biner but add a marl before it. I don't have spliced lines so I use a double fisherman and with a marl on the big pieces I find the knot easy to untie so I don't think I overload it.

I've seen youtube video of this back bone and it seems fairly slick, not my usual style but not a bad tool either.
 
I think the backbone is ok and can be used to make things smoother and more efficient BUT as for those who can't tie knots this should not be a replacement. I would only let my guys use this if they knew and could use knots first. I'm big on basics first before you can play with the cool toys.
 
So I just read this whole thread and I still don't understand the benefit of using this rather than some slings and a steel carabiner (or frankly just the rope). Is the idea that a carabiner takes too long to open up? I feel like any of us could open a carabiner in half a second. I can understand being spooked about side loading the gate but rigging anything large enough to break the gate on a big steel rigging biner seems sorta silly to me.

Also I just disagree in general with the idea that knotless rigging is somehow faster than tying bowlines unless you're removing a spruce or similar shaped tree (for the brush only). A guy told me once that it's faster because when the rope gets pulled up to you the next piece already has a sling on it so it's ready to get clipped into the carabiner and you're good to go. How long could it possibly take a person (who has removed enough trees to be considering shaving no more than a few seconds off their average removal time) to tie a running bowline? Also generally speaking don't you cut pieces large enough that the ground crew has something to chew on while you get your rigging line set on the next piece anyway?

Finally, has anyone reading this thread hit him/herself/climber/groundie in the face/arm/leg/balls/vag/anything with the end of a rigging line? :wtf:
 
For me,i saw it as an advantage to biners and knots for the strength,i use it for bigger wood. The knotless rigging doesn't need the backbone by any means and i dont use it for brush but using multiple slings you can load a few at a time,to a biner or whatever,add a speedline you can just keep em rollin. I used it for the first time 2 days thist last week,i like it,used it on the trunk sections,ended up slipping the eye through one hole and wrapping the eye around the trunk and slip back in and onto the T bars,the other way the half hitch wouldn't cinch it down.
Knots are a significant strength loss imo.
 
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im early in the game and i dont push things to what i think are unless limits, but i do push things to deep into the safe zone i think. and i think if i was doing something where i was going to blow the rope at a knot, im doing something bad. unless if im tying pieces at the same point on the rope all the time and loading it up?
 
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significant strength loss
 

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