Rope Wrench - Hitch/Rope compendium.

[islandarb]

3/3 VT is the ticket for me....been so for 7 years SRT and wrench

 

[Oertl]

Hitch Cord = 10mm Ocean Poly with spliced eyes, new
Hitch Cord Length = 30"
Rope= 13mm poly (name forgotten; it's neon orange with red and white flecks)
Hitch = 5 wrap Michoacan
Pulley = HitchClimber
Tether = Rope Logic, short, stiff
Carabiner = triple-lock, nothing special (exc. for that triple-lock action, which I couldn't design)
Weight = 205# and headed north of that
Two-handled ascender for doubled rope, above the Rope Wrench; using just the one in front for SRT
Left foot ascender
SAKA mini knee ascender on right foot/side.

[edited to remove question and leave information. sorry, didn't understand the nature of the thread originally]

 

[Brocky]

Yeah, but they look like baby ants at that height! That's a tough harness to climb in, hard to not have it crush your hips. As you found out the hip d rings are the worse ones. If you find you enjoy tree climbing, you might want to think about a different, more comfortable harness.

 

[JeffGu]

Yeah, think of somebody you really hate and give that old Weaver to them as a Xmas present.

"It's only got a few minutes of use on it! Like new! Oh, that... yeah, it does look kinda like shit. It's just... umm.... some coffee I spilled. Dries brown like that. Perfectly fine."

 

[SingleJack]

Weaver 4D is a great harness after a night of BAD tacos …

 

[JeffGu]

...yeah, and beer for breakfast...

 

[Oertl]

Thanks, folks. Caught! I'd hoped to move the saddle question to the hitch-tending thread before anybody noticed, but oh no, you're way too smart for that trick. Reading between the lines, I take it a bridge for this saddle is going to look a whole lot like a completely different model--with a Weaver hanging from it...

 

[WaitakKauri]

Hitch Cord = 10mm Ocean Poly with spliced eyes, new
Hitch Cord Length = 30"
Rope= 13mm poly (name forgotten; it's neon orange with red and white flecks)
Hitch = 5 wrap Michoacan
Pulley = HitchClimber
Tether = Rope Logic, short, stiff
Carabiner = triple-lock, nothing special (exc. for that triple-lock action, which I couldn't design)
Weight = 205# and headed north of that
Two-handled ascender for doubled rope, above the Rope Wrench; using just the one in front for SRT
Left foot ascender
SAKA mini knee ascender on right foot/side.

[edited to remove question and leave information. sorry, didn't understand the nature of the thread originally]

Humm. Seems like a good combination.

Find out the rope type and share that too. Maybe it's soft and squishy.

I use the same hitch cord/hitch with 6 wraps, but that's on 11mm kernmaster and I weigh 20lbs less out of the shower. I'd have thought 5 wraps would be in ok 13mm at your weight. Try 6 wraps is you can.

Question, are you setting your RW before weighting your climb system? The RW needs to be engaged, especially if the hitch is bitting hard.

 

[TimBr]

Bump.

I might be asking for too much here, but I was wondering if the moderators might see fit to "sticky" this thread. I perceive it to be of great and continuing importance to all of the folks who still climb on hitches. This thread was getting buried back on the third page of SRT results when I looked at it today. @Tom Dunlap, what say you?

Thank you in advance for your time and consideration.

Tim

 

[rico]

3/3 VT is the ticket for me....been so for 7 years SRT and wrench

Just recently switched from a 3/3 Vt to a 4 wrap Michoacan with 24" HRC on 11mm HTP. Money!
I also started using a 3/2 Vt on the HH2, and it too is kicking serious ass!
Having the final leg of the hitch sitting directly over the attachment point has been the icing on the cake for me.

 

[Brocky]

Rico, you can fine tune the VT hitch you’re using by putting in a split bolt electrical connector in place of the second braid.


The bolt controls how tight the wraps are, rather than how tight the hitch is tied.

 

[rico]

You truly are a madd hitch scientist Brocky!

 

[New2trees]

Just recently switched from a 3/3 Vt to a 4 wrap Michoacan with 24" HRC on 11mm HTP. Money!
I also started using a 3/2 Vt on the HH2, and it too is kicking serious ass!
Having the final leg of the hitch sitting directly over the attachment point has been the icing on the cake for me.
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I know I will look like an idiot for asking...but I would be an idiot if I did not so here goes...

Do you climb with both those at the same time as a backup, or are they for different uses?

 

[rico]

Gawd no. They were just put on the rope for the photo. I have equal love for the Wrench and the HH2, and simply pick the one that is going to best match my outfit for the day!

 

[TimBr]

@rico; Shouldn't both the Hitch Hiker and the Rope Wrench each have a tiny, little thong attached, then?

 

[SingleJack]

@rico; Shouldn't both the Hitch Hiker and the Rope Wrench each have a tiny, little thong attached, then?

 

[Aragorn]

155#'s, 4/1 Michoacán, 10mm OP 24" sewn eye on NE Dragonfly, Zk-2 wrench

 

[Pacafist]

I searched for something like this endlessley when I first adopted the rope wrench system and added it to my VT for my first ever SRT experience. It was awful! Hitch binding on descent was the worst. It took me a lot of trial and error and searching different combinations of Rope diameter/hitch type/hitch cord to really dial it in.

I propose to anyone that reads this, if you have a system that works very well for you, type out what combination you use as well as your body weight. I will write out body weight categories and as you respond I'll fill them in, so that anyone searching for a combination that functions well can simply look at their body weight and see a combo that has been tried tested and true.



145lbs - (4 up 1 down Michoacan / 8mm beeline 23-24" long. / On NE fly)

(9.3 epicord, 4/1 micho, Samson velocity.)

(10mm armor pruss, 3/3 vt, tach)

155lbs - (Hh2, 6 wraps of hrc on sterling tendril)
(3 wrap 2.5 braid VT Tachyon, Imori, +1 wrap for Kernmaster.28" spliced 10mm Armor prus)


165lbs - (4/1 michoacan with 9.3 epicord on kernmaster)


175lbs -


185lbs - (Poison Ivy 11.7mm/ 5 over 3 VT / Oceans 8mm)

(New England KM III MAX 7/16" with 4/1 Distel and 9mm ArbPro 26" or 9mm Epicord 26")

(Yale 11.7mm AZTEC with 4/1 Distel and 10mm Ocean Polyester 28" or 10mm EpiCord 28")

(any Yale 11.7 or Cougar or Tachyon or Escalator (any rope really) 3/ 3 VT with 9.3 mm EpiCord.)


195lbs - (NE KM III Max 9.3 Epicord, hand spliced 31" VT 4/2.5 alternating with Michoacan 4/1 to extend life of hitch cord)

(Cougar Blue 28" sewn 9.3 Epi 3/4VT)


205lbs -


220lbs - (Arbormaster( Bigfoot) 10mm AP tied at 24.5" 3x3 VT bottom cross on the tether side of the RW)

265lbs - (Htp addiction 11mm/ 4 over 3/ 9mm arbpro)

335lbs- (5over 1 Michocan with 8mm 30" armour prus or a 6 over 1mm armour prus 32")

I’m at 175 and what works well for me is a VT 3 wraps with 2 braids on 11mm htp with 8mm beeline. This seems to move me around fairly fast throughout the tree, it works for me, can’t speak for others

 

[TimBr]

http://www.treebuzz.com/forum/th

Bump, please sticky this.

The above was Drewtree's last post, Feb. 12th, 2017.

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I copied and pasted his main post below, and added your combo to the list, @Pacafist.

Drewtree said:
I searched for something like this endlessley when I first adopted the rope wrench system and added it to my VT for my first ever SRT experience. It was awful! Hitch binding on descent was the worst. It took me a lot of trial and error and searching different combinations of Rope diameter/hitch type/hitch cord to really dial it in.

I propose to anyone that reads this, if you have a system that works very well for you, type out what combination you use as well as your body weight. I will write out body weight categories and as you respond I'll fill them in, so that anyone searching for a combination that functions well can simply look at their body weight and see a combo that has been tried tested and true.



145lbs - (4 up 1 down Michoacan / 8mm beeline 23-24" long. / On NE fly)

(9.3 epicord, 4/1 micho, Samson velocity.)

(10mm armor pruss, 3/3 vt, tach)

155lbs - (Hh2, 6 wraps of hrc on sterling tendril)
(3 wrap 2.5 braid VT Tachyon, Imori, +1 wrap for Kernmaster.28" spliced 10mm Armor prus)


165lbs - (4/1 michoacan with 9.3 epicord on kernmaster)


175lbs - I’m at 175 and what works well for me is a VT 3 wraps with 2 braids on 11mm htp with 8mm beeline. This seems to move me around fairly fast throughout the tree, it works for me, can’t speak for others. (Credit to @Pacafist.)


185lbs - (Poison Ivy 11.7mm/ 5 over 3 VT / Oceans 8mm)

(New England KM III MAX 7/16" with 4/1 Distel and 9mm ArbPro 26" or 9mm Epicord 26")

(Yale 11.7mm AZTEC with 4/1 Distel and 10mm Ocean Polyester 28" or 10mm EpiCord 28")

(any Yale 11.7 or Cougar or Tachyon or Escalator (any rope really) 3/ 3 VT with 9.3 mm EpiCord.)


195lbs - (NE KM III Max 9.3 Epicord, hand spliced 31" VT 4/2.5 alternating with Michoacan 4/1 to extend life of hitch cord)

(Cougar Blue 28" sewn 9.3 Epi 3/4VT)


205lbs -


220lbs - (Arbormaster( Bigfoot) 10mm AP tied at 24.5" 3x3 VT bottom cross on the tether side of the RW)

265lbs - (Htp addiction 11mm/ 4 over 3/ 9mm arbpro)

335lbs- (5over 1 Michocan with 8mm 30" armour prus or a 6 over 1mm armour prus 32")

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Other forum members can update the above as new information becomes available. Thanks to all.

Tim

 

[Brocky]

The Stitch Hitch paired with the Wrench provides a very smooth and easy descent. The new, and completely original idea of running bungee through some metal tubes, that was added to the tether, keeps the Wrench well above the hitch.