Rope Wrench Feedback?

I dropped about 3 feet Wednesday with about 40' of rope between me and the TIP and it wasn't nearly as bad as dropping 4' on DdRT with only 15' of rope out.
No residual from the SRT drop but the DdRT drop left me feeling like I was in a car wreck.
 
With trunk tied SRT you have a lot of rope in the system to stretch. If it also passes through multiple crotches they will absorb shock by pulling together as the load increases. And then there is friction at the crotches.

If if remember right, two ropes in parallel stretch half as much under a given load as a single rope of the same spec.

SRT has a lot of rope in the system to absorb shock.
 
I had been using KMIII since may, when I first got the wrench. After cutting my line I have been using rocket for the last month and I don't find it very efficient on srt. I am definitely going back to static as soon as Tom D. sells me his KMIII. I find so many benefits of srt are lost on a non static line.
 
I like my static sterling HTP the best so far. I tried my tachyon a few times but don’t like the bounce on the way up. I think my next line would be another static line that is a little bigger to grip. So far my 200ft HTP Snake bite has been treating me well!
ANd like the others have said i don't wory about falling with all the redirects to help slow you down.
 
Vortex is some awesome stuff for wrenching on man. Its not static, and its main idea is its a larger diameter velocity, but the thing is, they decreased the stretch in it, so its not as stretcy as velocity. Looks at the 11.7mm velocity thread, last page you'll find a link or two showing elongation and graphs comparing it to velocity.

I love it because its a larger diameter rope(12.7mm) which I think is great when SRT'ing. Gives that little extra bit to grab, and I've found hitches perform way better on a larger diameter line, because they don't have to bite as hard. Truthfully, I think my climbing has gotten smoother climbing on Vortex, because everything just performs so well on it.
 
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...I have been using rocket for the last month and I don't find it very efficient on srt. ...

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Hmmm. I use Rocket line and have no complaints. I wonder what we do different.

Dave
 
Dave,
the wrench is very different to the uni. I climbed srt for a couple of years with the uni and tacyon and the bounciness never bothered me. I tried the uni with static line and didnt like it. With the wrench it's the opposite. The hitch works better with a slicker and firmer line in my opinion and is more efficient in vertical ascents.
 
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... The hitch works better with a slicker and firmer line in my opinion and is more efficient in vertical ascents.

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The hitch working better I get, but not where the bounce is coming from.

Dave
 
Rangerdanger. You seem to have climbed on the Vortex the most so i'm waiting for your opinion before I drop the dinero an another set up. I just can't make 1 set up work for both DRT and SRT. I finally got that through my head. If the KMIII what diameter?
 
Dave,
after spending five months working on static, rocket feels pretty bouncy in comparison. I guess it's what I am used to now.
Arborcare,
I use 11mm with 8mm op. it took my hands about a month of putting an extra layer of callouses to grip it well before I really started enjoying it.
 
Hey arborcare, its all about personal preference really. I love climbing on Vortex and Rocket, both are excellent ropes I think for both SRT and DdRT, but my preference is Vortex now. If you want a larger diameter line, and don't mind the extra weight, go for Vortex. If you like the skinnier line, and want to shave some weight, go for Rocket. A big part of it is if you're going to use it for SRT only or DdRT and SRT.

KMIII is 11mm, Rocket is 11.5mm, and Vortex is 12.7mm. I've climbed on all of these with the Wrench, and they all work great for it, but I just prefer Vortex. I don't mind the bit of bounce it has compared to a true static line, I don't really notice it. But then again, I'm not doing crazy open air ascents that often. If you are, you might want to go with KMIII or another static line.

BTW, I use 8mm OD with my Vortex. Getting some Armor Pruss to try out in the next few weeks also.
 
I climbed on static lines in Srt work positioning systems for between 1 and 2 years. I'm now climbing on rocketline. I demoed vortex for 2 weeks and loved it. There is definitely a difference in stretch. Not enough in these lines that I found a big problem though. Some of the other arborist lines I could not use because of the amount of stretch.
Find what works for you.
 
TreeStuff can hook u up with Vortex, he just can't sell it until after the expo, when samson officially releases it.

OD is Ocean Dynemma, a lot like OP, but with a dynemma core. Knot and Rope Supply carries it, but its not on their site. Awesome stuff.
 
Ordered the Vortex this morning. The velocity has been kicking my butt with the wrench and the removable pin. I can't wait to try this with the rite set up. Small line, wrong cordage for the VT and not ennough friction means it created more effort for me to work with than DRT. The ascent was better though. I can't wait to get rolling with it.
 
Good luck with this. There are some definite tradeoffs climbing SRT. Sometimes it is faster but 1:1 climbing also can mean more effort sometimes. I find it can be somewhat more athletic climbing and more climbing the tree as opposed to pulling yourself up the rope. No body thrusting. As crazy Jimmy says, not for every tree and every situation and every climber. I think the thicker rope may help but I don't believe SRT climbing is necessarily easier. A very different game and it opens up a lot of options but also closes some.
 
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Good luck with this. There are some definite tradeoffs climbing SRT. Sometimes it is faster but 1:1 climbing also can mean more effort sometimes. I find it can be somewhat more athletic climbing and more climbing the tree as opposed to pulling yourself up the rope. No body thrusting. As crazy Jimmy says, not for every tree and every situation and every climber. I think the thicker rope may help but I don't believe SRT climbing is necessarily easier. A very different game and it opens up a lot of options but also closes some.

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I use SRT for every tree and all situations. Tall and skinny, short and fat, it works faster and easier than doubled rope. With all the possibilities in SRT and RADS what options are closed?

Dave
 
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