rope runner

Steve Connally said:
My out know it wouldn't do it for the video. Sorry for the cinematography. .


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I see what you are saying Steve. Looks like you are going to want some play between the biner and swivel :nocausagracia:? It would stink to take that grommet out. Looks beautifully designed.

A rubber trap could work but would you want the nose of the carabiner pointed downwards towards the swivel for easy on/off???

I tried this biner before http://www.treestuff.com/store/catalog.asp?category_id=130&item=3530 ....but the metal trap space isn't quite large enough for the base of the runner.
 
Think I got my money's worth out of these. Don't mind the burrs. It's from plyers to take it off.
 

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John_KAYS said:
It is one of DMM's new offerings.
http://www.treestuff.com/store/catalog.asp?item=15776
The DMM Nexus is a compact, hot-forged swivel designed for use at junctions where torsion needs management. A high-quality internal bearing ensures smooth and reliable rotation, while the textile-friendly clip in points are perfect for carabiners or textile elements. The Nexus range has two shackles on either ends which can be removed to allow connections to fixed loops such as wire strops, rigging plates, and harness bridges.
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That is a beautiful design, capable of being opened at both ends, with a swivel. It is going to sell like hotcakes.

Tim
 
It is crazy Kevin, one of my 11.7's likes the bump, my other one does not. My Vortex is usually ran on a custom body I made for my runner. It's funny how all these things interact with each other including our weights and climbing styles.
 
TimBr said:
You guys are all making me feel better about the fact that I struggle for understanding sometimes. Thanks.

Tim
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Don't worry, you and I both. I had the chance to try out the runner for one day (off of our bucket truck) and it felt super jerky and honestly terrifying. There was no smooth descent, just static or dropping down at 100 km/h. Most likely it was user inexperience but it terrified me haha. Sticking to my hitch and RW for now
 
@CanadianStan; Wow, interesting and very honest post! I don't own the Rope Runner yet, so I can't give a response based on direct experience. I thought I'd read, however, how some climbers that do use it like to grab almost the whole device, like a big, fat hitch, and moderate how it acts in that way. I think Kevin might have mentioned that the "bird" is really just used to get the descent started, and that he uses the back of the device to really control things.

Folks who've actually used the Rope Runner can feel free to jump in and correct any misunderstanding I might have on this issue. Thanks.

Tim
 
@swingdude; Just to drag you into this thread if you care to chime in, I'll quote a post of yours from another thread that relates to this one. You said: "I never liked the LOOK or setup of the HH, coming from a wrenching background...the wrench when dialed is just such a super tool..I need not even mention a runner which for me is nirvana....

............... Swing."

So now that you've said you need not mention the Rope Runner, I'm asking you to mention it, and maybe give some of us new guys a hint as to how you make it behave in a way that seems to please you so much. Thanks in advance for any hints or tips you care to share with us.

Tim
 
My first experience with the Runner I felt like it was too responsive. I would just touch the bird and I would drop a few feet in a quick jerky instant. Wow. That is so different than how a hitch responds. However, once you make the proper adjustments to fit your rope and weight (easily done) the RR's responsiveness becomes it's greatest feature. The device just glides along the rope as the user varies speed with incredible control. And yes, I would say Tim is exactly right in regards to hand position. I like to have my hand along the top arm with my thumb on the bird for well balanced control. I haven't had any jerky drops since that fist day when I hadn't calibrated it yet. Remember try everything low and slow to get it worked out before jumping out of the top of a tree not knowing what to expect.
 
John_KAYS said:
My first experience with the Runner I felt like it was too responsive. I would just touch the bird and I would drop a few feet in a quick jerky instant. Wow. That is so different than how a hitch responds. However, once you make the proper adjustments to fit your rope and weight (easily done) the RR's responsiveness becomes it's greatest feature. The device just glides along the rope as the user varies speed with incredible control. And yes, I would say Tim is exactly right in regards to hand position. I like to have my hand along the top arm with my thumb on the bird for well balanced control. I haven't had any jerky drops since that fist day when I hadn't calibrated it yet. Remember try everything low and slow to get it worked out before jumping out of the top of a tree not knowing what to expect.
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We did exactly that when my friend first got it ; setup the boom at the yard and played around climbing up and then descending slowly ... tried a few swings and flips as well haha
 
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