Rope bridge recommendations

[moss]

Sorry 'bout that #Joeybagodonuts I have absolutely no right to rain on your conspiracy theory parade! What was I thinking?
;-) -AJ

 

[DumpyMcDoodleface]

Thanks for the update regarding the 5000. Seems odd it was considered not as "tough", especially if it's hand was harder & resides in a bumpy "tough looking" 32 strand cover.. is what it is though... 3000 is clearly an awesome choice

According to the PDF attached earlier the globe 5000 cover is thinner... Not sure how that matters all else being equal.

 

[moss]

According to the PDF attached earlier the globe 5000 cover is thinner... Not sure how that matters all else being equal.

If it’s thinner it will be less durable. In a bridge application you want the strength and flex fatigue resistance that braided Dyneema gives you for the core and a tough abrasion and UV resistant cover to protect the Dyneema.
-AJ

 

[DumpyMcDoodleface]

If it’s thinner it will be less durable. In a bridge application you want the strength and flex fatigue resistance that braided Dyneema gives you for the core and a tough abrasion and UV resistant cover to protect the Dyneema.
-AJ

Sorry, I meant - the thickness itself doesn't make a difference assuming their resistance to abrasion was the same. Like maybe the thicker one is thicker due to a coarser weave which in turn makes it wear more quickly. Sorry - my job sometimes has me thinking about what it could be despite walking like a duck and quacking like a duck.

 

[Joeybagodonuts]

According to the PDF attached earlier the globe 5000 cover is thinner... Not sure how that matters all else being equal.

Yeah.. that pdf also states that the treemo bridge is not "off the shelf" globe 3000 even though the treemagineers bridge breakdown video it looks exactly like globe 3000.. yet neither pdf or video explain how it is not.. Then pdf then goes onto explain why you can't buy spools of globe 3000 anymore, while at the same time in parentheses stating "is not the same".. If that pdf was meant to clear up confusing, why even mention why you can't buy it in spools, if it isn't exactly what is being used.

You'd think it would have been alot easier to just explain the difference between globe 3000 & the special variant of it that they are using.. & say "hey this is this & that is that because of "xy&z" rather than giving conflicting comments about why you can't buy the cordage your not supposed to be using in the first place.. If it's not the cordage used, why even bring it up.

 

[Jonny]

Yeah.. that pdf also states that the treemo bridge is not "off the shelf" globe 3000 even though the treemagineers bridge breakdown video it looks exactly like globe 3000.. yet neither pdf or video explain how it is not..

If there was a significant change in materials or construction used, wouldn’t they probably not call it Globe 3000 anymore?

 

[DumpyMcDoodleface]

If there was a significant change in materials or construction used, wouldn’t they probably not call it Globe 3000 anymore?

To be fair I don't think they necessarily call it Globe 3000. They only mention it to be clear that it's not. But if it's a special "recipe" of the cord based on Globe 3000, why not just throw some special color/pattern Tracers in it to make it clear it's special.

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[Joeybagodonuts]

If there was a significant change in materials or construction used, wouldn’t they probably not call it Globe 3000 anymore?

To be fair I don't think they necessarily call it Globe 3000. They only mention it to be clear that it's not. But if it's a special "recipe" of the cord based on Globe 3000, why not just throw some special color/pattern Tracers in it to make it clear it's special.

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I totally get what both of you are saying.. why not put a name to it then.. something other than "T-mo bridge" .. Every other cordage used by them has a model name.. even when it's drastically different than the model names series.. (Ce-lanyard is called Sirius even though it's a parallel core & all other Sirius cordage is braided).

For the past 45 minutes I've been trying to think of a good analogy to explain what I was saying earlier better..

Regardless of analogy, half the thread is saying it's the same.. Half the thread is pointing to the pdf, which says it's not, they call it "optimized" & a "evolution" of Globe 3000... & Go on to reference the materials being used, which are still the same as the standard off the shelf G-3000..

Then go on to explain why you can't get G-3000 off the spool anymore.. It's like admitting that the G-3000, is indeed what was used & or silently condoning previous/current use, then explaining why you can't get it anymore. If it wasn't used at some point, on one of their generations, it shouldn't even be brought up. The only reason to bring up a product that according to them "is not" the product, should be to explicitly say, "do not use it", but no where in that pdf do they say not to.. they use phrases like "Only the Approved bridge is Approved", but do not explicitly condem the use of G-3000..

My take away is, they obviously know people are using G-3000, they won't publicly condem the use because it would cause uneeded hysteria, but realistically would rather the harness be used with their "Approved" sewn factory terminations or tails. Idk.. just my take away..

 

[Mowerr]

I use all types of stuff but I basically just keep it new and always inspect it.
I think globe is great and really tough and after so much debate I would try out any new globe 3000 off the spool to compare.
Maybe somebody could bore Richard to death with some pull test results...even to compare globe5 to the globe3 with stiched terminations they have optimized and titled as the tm replacement?

 

[Joeybagodonuts]

I don't understand why more manufacturers arent using similar type of cordage.. from a strength to size ratio, you can't beat it.

Personally, I want a verified, clean, compact, twin bridge solution.. I've noticed the only time I'm actually taking advantage of my single adjustable bridge, is when ascending & taking the saddle on & off.. I'm also using a Ropeman in a fashion that makes it a much cleaner setup over a R&L, which is great & all.. But I've seen zero testing with it in this configuration, so it's always knawing at my subconscious.

I'm at the point where i want a twin bridge solution i just don't have to put any thought into. I'm in a MB, so hypothetically, the option is there, just buy the twin TM cordage & be done.. I'm just not sure if "overall" id be happier in the Evo at this point because of how much storage real estate was wasted on the MB. Still can't wrap my head around what happened there. Still waiting for a manufacturer to incorperate modular molle/pals webbing into design..