Rope bridge recommendations

I have been in TMs since 2012. 7 years plus. That is a lot of climbing. I have had many bridges using globe 3000 in red black and green. Red from Oz and black from UK. I just put a black and a red as double bridge on Sam's sequoia They all wore the same. I have a few old green with their stitching laying around. So when Sam's red and black are worn I will disect them. I seen Mark bridge disect theirs the other day...it has three layers not sure if that is the case with reg sailing globe 3000. SK75dyneema is the load bearing core. Strong as but not heat resistant.
 
Mowerr said:
Yea I just love how they can't clearly explain what exactly is so different about the stock bridge....
But then again I haven't seen a you tube clip or anyone in here take apart a piece of both ropes and document what they see?!
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Lol.. yeah.. they are probably vauge in purpose, so people will only buy replacements from them instead of just buying the cordage at half the cost.
Greg_L said:
It aaaaalmost sounds like they're describing a third layer between the sheath and core at one point, but they don't go into detail and I've never inspected a late-gen bridge closely after reading about this.
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It sounds like that because they are doing exactly just that. The T-mo bridge consist is a poly cover, a intermediate sheath directly under that & then a central core of dyneema ... Three layers.

I'll have to read that link, but for now, I'm pretty sure the modification referenced is most likely something easily explained.. like there are more than one versions of Globe kicking around. So different variations/"modifications" wouldn't be unusual for the Globe Product. However, at the same time, it isn't unusual for Teufelberger to use proprietary one off constructions not available for bulk purchase.

Also- if you go to Treemagineers YouTube channel, i think there is an entire video on the bridge cordage.. it's relatively new.

Ohh..looks like Swing posted the same the before me..

Here's the vid
 
Have a listen. For those in doubt or lack the knowledge this is very informing. Globe 3000 is my goto. You can now get two bridges for 22 dollars using evo harness replacement. It comes in 1.25m and 1.8m gives ya two colors and a nice box. Lol.
 
swingdude said:
Have a listen. For those in doubt or lack the knowledge this is very informing. Globe 3000 is my goto. You can now get two bridges for 22 dollars using evo harness replacement. It comes in 1.25m and 1.8m gives ya two colors and a nice box. Lol.
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Lol.. your ears ringing? Cuz were posting & saying the same thing at the same time twice in a row.. Haha.

I know you know the construction.. but so others can lay there eyes on it, on paper & know the exact properties, this link is for them.
It's page 31 of catalog. Nice & clear.. poly poly dyneema

FSE Robline Catalogue 2014/15 - Robline - PDF Catalogs | Documentation | Boating Brochures

pdf.nauticexpo.com pdf.nauticexpo.com

Edit - not for nothing, but for those of you who are contemplating two bridges & struggling to make the stopper terminations of regular climbing cordage fit nice & neat within your plate/paw or ring system, this 10mm solution will definitely help with that problem.. It's also comforting to know even though smaller, it's strong & durable. No guess work needed going with this smaller option.
 
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Read this folks. This is the shit. 10mm. Breaking at 9K...huge....poly cove and non self abraiding SK75 dyneema. Now I am off to find 100 feet in 4 colors.....lol for my 3rd time.2019-08-24 23.07.07.webp
 
swingdude said:
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There ya go! That's the page i was trying to link.

Say, Swing, any opinion on why they chose the 3000 over the 5000 for the tm bridge? Any obvious reasons I'm not seeing? Maybe just wear & tear on hardware with the tougher cover of the 5000? As in it might be more abrasive to aluminum rings & whatnot? Knotability/Bend radius may not be as good with the 5000 for termination? Not really trying to mindfck this either, just curious..

What's also interesting, is i can't find it in the current Robline Catalog. Not the English version i just DL'd anyways..

I'm also curious as to why more manufacturers don't use this type of cordage for bridges.. the Globe 3000 more specifically. It's tried, it's true, it's durable, non self-abrasive, it's size/bulk is refreshing & most importantly it's strong as fck. So what gives?
 
I have two rope bridges on my TM Lite, with the second being Teufelberger 10.5mm Platinum double-fisherman'd to the lower rings. I run it truly in parallel to the original bridge, as a secondary/backup, not as an independent bridge.

I've never looked closely at the rope's construction, so I'm wondering how it compares to Globe 3k, and wondering if I'm in the minority for using it as a secondary bridge. At the time I was setting this up, I couldn't find any Globe 3k, so I found some online source mentioning Platinum's suitability as a bridge and went with that.
 
LordFarkwad said:
I have two rope bridges on my TM Lite, with the second being Teufelberger 10.5mm Platinum double-fisherman'd to the lower rings. I run it truly in parallel to the original bridge, as a secondary/backup, not as an independent bridge.

I've never looked closely at the rope's construction, so I'm wondering how it compares to Globe 3k, and wondering if I'm in the minority for using it as a secondary bridge. At the time I was setting this up, I couldn't find any Globe 3k, so I found some online source mentioning Platinum's suitability as a bridge and went with that.
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If there’s been any complaints about Platinum 10.5mm I haven’t read about them. Reception seems pretty positive.
I think it’s the stock bridge for the Onyx too.
 
swingdude said:
I have been in TMs since 2012. 7 years plus. That is a lot of climbing. I have had many bridges using globe 3000 in red black and green. Red from Oz and black from UK. I just put a black and a red as double bridge on Sam's sequoia They all wore the same. I have a few old green with their stitching laying around. So when Sam's red and black are worn I will disect them. I seen Mark bridge disect theirs the other day...it has three layers not sure if that is the case with reg sailing globe 3000. SK75dyneema is the load bearing core. Strong as but not heat resistant.
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Swing where do you get the black Globe 3000?
 
Globe 3000 has been discontinued for awhile. The intermediate core (PEX) is a thin braided polyester sheath, it protects the Dyneema braided core from additional friction wear (I guess from the polyester cover). A few of the Teufleberger/Robline Dyneema core yachting lines have PEX intermediate covers, not unique to the stock TM bridges.

There is no evil conspiracy to force you to buy stock bridges for the TM, it's simply a matter of liability, certification process (for the entire TM harness) and concern for your well-being in no particular order.

From what other people have reported the Globe 5000 is not satisfactory for a harness bridge, more about the hand and the cover toughness not being up to snuff as I recall.
-AJ
 
moss said:
There is no evil conspiracy to force you to buy stock bridges for the TM, it's simply a matter of liability, certification process (for the entire TM harness) and concern for your well-being in no particular order.

From what other people have reported the Globe 5000 is not satisfactory for a harness bridge, more about the hand and the cover toughness not being up to snuff as I recall.
-AJ
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Haha.. thanks for debunking my conspiracy Moss..lol Now what am i to do with all my spare time!!

Thanks for the update regarding the 5000. Seems odd it was considered not as "tough", especially if it's hand was harder & resides in a bumpy "tough looking" 32 strand cover.. is what it is though... 3000 is clearly an awesome choice.

Either way, i think I'm gunna
fold on my conspiracy theory & just get the longer bridge pair from Teufelberger. It's probably the cheapest way to go about it here in the states..

swingdude said:
No wonder the US are not winning the America's Cup anytime again soon. No fucking globe 3000.....
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Hahahahahaha.. that's funny shit right there!
 
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