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Title of the thread takes on a whole new meaning...
Quickie killer?
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Whoa horsey. That is some badass cold Shadow....that is my kryptonite. I am used to this. Respect Sir.
Shadowscape
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My mid-summer is in the 70s. Then I have the air conditioner running full tilt. I would melt where you are. Spring around here gets me excited though:
You are in very good shape. Keep it up.
Shadowscape
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I'm okay for an old geezer. Climbing has kept me in pretty good shape, but it has wrecked my back.
But we are off track from the issue at hand. Much as I would like to flaunt my antique physique, I do believe this CANNOT UNSEE image probably just killed this thread.
But we are off track from the issue at hand. Much as I would like to flaunt my antique physique, I do believe this CANNOT UNSEE image probably just killed this thread.
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They didn’t recall that triple action snap issue they had.
Shadowscape
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That was an issue where the snap didn't close. Climbers should note that, just like a carabiner that is gummed up and doesn't close properly. This is an issue where it likely can fail during use, out of sight of the climber totally, such as in a redirect, even though it is fine when they begin.
And ISC did change the design of that snap, although they did not recall the old version.
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Just saying I’m not holding my breath waiting for a recall from them. We’ll see
treebing
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At least it has a CE. And super convenient to open. That's always a perk in our line of work. The quickie is totally cumbersome to open. Not very convenient. Unfortunately havent figured out the hands free opening of the quickie yet. curious as to why the ultra has a pulley standard CE and not a connector CE. The instructions don't really mention using it as a pulley but a lot of instruction on how to use it as a connector.
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Since the original title of this thread was about the comparison between the Ultra Link and the Quickie, I just want to mention a couple more ways that this offering from ISC is actually inferior to the Quickie for a cinching anchor and rope connection. The slic pin in the Quickie rotates freely at all times, including when it is closed, which minimizes friction and makes setting and retrieving easier. The pin in the Ultra Link does not rotate, other than the 1/4 turn it takes to open it. Also, the channel in the side of the pin has sharp enough edges that I wouldn't want rope to run over it frequently. These two issues apply to using it without the pulley. Just more food for thought. The pulley has a bushing, not a bearing in case that information is useful to anyone. Lastly, although it can be hard to detect, I think @treebing is using sarcasm to great effect hahaha
Crimsonking
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It’s like anything- if it’s easy one way, it’s easy the other. Kask helmets are easy to adjust, and I find I have to do so constantly. My protos is difficult to adjust, but I only have to do it once in its lifetime, usually.
When I first saw the ultralink, I had the same thought- wow, that’s easy, and maybe that’s not a good thing.
When I first saw the ultralink, I had the same thought- wow, that’s easy, and maybe that’s not a good thing.
I have one on the way. I'll reserve more permanent judgement for when I get a chance to compare them side by side. I can see pros and cons to each. Quickie is annoying to open (regardless of what others say) and you have to be cognizant of not loading the pin against the tabs. Plus side it's pretty bomber. This Ultralink looks easy to open (maybe too easy) and you don't have to worry about load direction (maybe). Potential con may be death. 
Shadowscape
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Got mine today. Here is my first impression:
1) Way to easy to open one handed like shown above. Thought I would have to practice a bit. Nope. As I grabbed it my hand made the motions and the sheeve fell on the floor. Didn't even look at it.
2) Noted in the instruction that they post twice not to use it with the head of the pin pointed downward.
Use without the sheeve is not recommended by me as the pin has a groove cut in it for the set screw to ride in. It is very sharp edged. Mine at least is like a knife edge.
I don't have a video camera so I couldn't photograph it, but I took it outside and ran it over the trunk of a 3" diameter tree and it opened up completely. Granted, I knew which way to pull it over the tree, but that scared the hell out of me.
Conclusion: I will not be using this. For a ground based light pulley it probably will be fine, but I have pulleys that are better for such things. I see no reason to ever carry this item up in a tree.
And I concur without grinding and drilling there is not a way to use a slick pin in these, even if you remove the current pin completely. You would have to drill it out and grind down the sides as the slick pin it is too short as is.
I have wasted my money. Maybe it will save someone's life down the line.
1) Way to easy to open one handed like shown above. Thought I would have to practice a bit. Nope. As I grabbed it my hand made the motions and the sheeve fell on the floor. Didn't even look at it.
2) Noted in the instruction that they post twice not to use it with the head of the pin pointed downward.
Use without the sheeve is not recommended by me as the pin has a groove cut in it for the set screw to ride in. It is very sharp edged. Mine at least is like a knife edge.
I don't have a video camera so I couldn't photograph it, but I took it outside and ran it over the trunk of a 3" diameter tree and it opened up completely. Granted, I knew which way to pull it over the tree, but that scared the hell out of me.
Conclusion: I will not be using this. For a ground based light pulley it probably will be fine, but I have pulleys that are better for such things. I see no reason to ever carry this item up in a tree.
And I concur without grinding and drilling there is not a way to use a slick pin in these, even if you remove the current pin completely. You would have to drill it out and grind down the sides as the slick pin it is too short as is.
I have wasted my money. Maybe it will save someone's life down the line.
I do not know what kind of head you have. But I hardly ever have to adjust my kask. A protos feels like a brick on my head. Hate the fucking thing. But horses for coarses obviouly.
Shadowscape
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Update:
Opens when you run a 1/2" rope over it. Every time!
This is something that should never have put on the market for climbers.
Opens when you run a 1/2" rope over it. Every time!
This is something that should never have put on the market for climbers.
Serf Life
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A video would be helpful if family/friend could take one, sounds not good. Pic comparing the two would be neat too. I have a quickie for saddle-bdb attachment, and one for cinching anchor so I’m not constantly taking them on and off. The minor inconvenience of the slic pin is outweighed by my complete confidence in them.
Shadowscape
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Okay, I took a video with a video camera of me rubbing the item over a 1/2" rope and it opening and the spool falling to the floor. I am a complete moron when it comes to this video stuff (Never owned a cell phone) and I can watch it on my computer but I can't seem to upload it here. I'm guessing the file is too big. After 1/2 hour it tells me there is a problem. Clip is only about ten seconds long. I don't know where to go from here. Guess you will just have to try it yourself. Opens for me every time. If I can figure this out I will get it done, but so far I am a complete failure with this technology.
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