One reason why removing stubs is a good idea

What on earth happened? Did a stub on the cut section break, allowing the rig line connection to slip off?

How much of the stem is inside the building?
 
No rigline. We were just supposed to drop the tree, and the homeowner whould do the cleanup. All the brush was underneath, so was just gonna block down. When pushing the first piece over, he held it back, so it wouldnt go towards the house (about 3-4 meters). It fell downwards along the trunk, hit a small stubb, did a backflip before planting itsself in the roof. Only about 30 cm of the stem is insidede the roof, and no big damages, luckily. Just annoying and big dent in my ego/pride :-)
 
Dude, my gut is wrenched for ya. Chalk it up as a learning experience an move on.
 
I learned the same lesson when both climbers were without spurs so we left stubs to climb on. I had a med. sized block glance off a spruce stub and rocket toward four crew on the ground. It stopped at their feet and so did my heart. No stubs since that day.
 
Erlend good one for posting that. What a bummer. Those aren't really stubs but we get the message. Chalk it up to experience and move on.
 
Boo!
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Check my avatar, a necessary strategic evil.
BTw I do leave the occassional stub for positioning
when chunking down cookies but it is minimal.
 

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I don't see any stubbs in the photo unless you guys are counting branch collars.

It looks to me like the the piece just wasn't given enough push....maybe folded over and slid down the trunk a bit and hit a collar. I consider that a fairly clean trunk.

At any rate, it is very important that the flying piece not hit anything on it's way down that can change its trajectory. It's surprising just how much change a small push or tap can make.
 
Ok, stubs/branch collar. There was an aproxomatly 1 cm collar on the largest removed branch towards the house, but nothing I gave any thought about while standing on the ground.

The piece wasn't given any push, the climber actually held it back so it wouldn't fly far (He has had a habit of pushing a bit much, and had few pieces landing a bit out the "comfort landing zone") The piece then flipped arround and skidded down the trunk, before hitting the stub/branchcollar and leaped right into the roof.

Anyways, we're all good now, and the roof is beeing taken care of, so everyone is happy.
 
Scots pine, right? Id say this is less to do with stubs and more wood characteristics and cutting technique. Probably had too wide of a notch and too thick a hinge, that and red pine, pitch pine hang on their hinge, rip down the sides pretty regularly. Make a few kerf cuts or nip out the corners of the hinge, makes getting it to come off a bunch easier too.

Edit - looking closer, was that a snap cut or did he bypass the hinge?
 
I climbed and removed a scots yesterday. They are bitchy. Couldn't get a spike to stick with the platey bark and they hold their snap cuts a little too well. Caught a 20lb coil of pull rope in the head to finish the day.
 
Pines can be a lot of fun because of their tenacious ability to hold on till the very last fiber snaps loose after a 90 degree bend.

Using triangular hinge wood it's relatively easy to fall certain species over 90 degrees with the hinge wood still intact and holding the butt up off the ground for easy horizontal limbing of the entire tree off the ground and out of the dirt. May as well cut it firewood length right then and there huh?

Kinda like sailing a branch from 80 feet up right into your old chuck n duck chipper!

It can be done.

jomoco
 
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Pines can be a lot of fun because of their tenacious ability to hold on till the very last fiber snaps loose after a 90 degree bend.

Using triangular hinge wood it's relatively easy to fall certain species over 90 degrees with the hinge wood still intact and holding the butt up off the ground for easy horizontal limbing of the entire tree off the ground and out of the dirt. May as well cut it firewood length right then and there huh?

Kinda like sailing a branch from 80 feet up right into your old chuck n duck chipper!

It can be done.

jomoco

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