RopeShield
Carpal tunnel level member
- Location
- Ontario, Canada
NO OuTCH
Notch made in TW
- Thread starter ArboristSolutions
- Start date
flushcut
Been here much more than a while
- Location
- Delavan, WI
Fuck Notch and Sherrill. If they are making items in China is one more reason I will not be buying from them.
treebing
Been here much more than a while
- Location
- Detroit, Mi.
is that the carbon fiber one?
Stumpsprouts
Been here much more than a while
- Location
- Asheville
Being as how these two posts vary so wildly on their information, could you kindly provide sources? Thank you
evo
Been here much more than a while
- Location
- My Island, WA
No it’s aluminum
- Location
- Columbus
Being as how these two posts vary so wildly on their information, could you kindly provide sources? Thank you
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Helmstein
Participating member
- Location
- Berkshire county
One of the reasons I support @surveror in all/most of his creations. I know that he has personally overseen all the builds and like to support innovation right here in the USA/This form.
I'm not a fan of notch. I only purchase their rope bags and big shot triggers once. I know I can get new bags for life once they wear out. I take advantage of that atleast once a year and hopefully I can run them out of business with how many bags I warranty. Mayby I am part of the problem.
On another note. When my weaver knee acender wore out I threw it away and purchased a saka from Richard. Love that devices. The footloop is genius
I'm not a fan of notch. I only purchase their rope bags and big shot triggers once. I know I can get new bags for life once they wear out. I take advantage of that atleast once a year and hopefully I can run them out of business with how many bags I warranty. Mayby I am part of the problem.
On another note. When my weaver knee acender wore out I threw it away and purchased a saka from Richard. Love that devices. The footloop is genius
RyanCafferky
Been here a while
- Location
- Hood River, Oregon
Somehow this thread invaded my dreams in a weird way. In my dream I was in a bathroom and I looked into the trash, and noticed that there was a condom wrapper branded NOTCH. In tonight’s dream how much you want to bet someone is pregnant?
This thread has generated some good discussion, but the poll is definitely a loaded question in my opinion.
I like to support American companies and I avoid buying goods at Walmart, other than groceries, since so much of it is cheap crap from overseas. However, since we have such a global economy, with many products, the best you can do is buy Assembled in the USA. And if you want a television or a smartphone, you can't even get one that's Assembled in the USA. Most folks don't have the time or inclination to find out countries of origin for raw materials and components and where assembly/manufacturing sites are located for the products they buy. If you're relying on a company's Made in the USA logo, you may be disappointed.
I'd say it's a pretty safe bet that every household in the US contains products made with questionable materials, work conditions or company oversight. Some might even be domestically produced. Of course, life support products are a special category where quality is paramount.
I'm not a fan of TS, don't think I've ever bought from them. I don't like businesses that constantly have sales. I'd rather do business with someone who prices their goods fairly every day. A sale often gives me the impression they've been overcharging the rest of the time.
I like to support American companies and I avoid buying goods at Walmart, other than groceries, since so much of it is cheap crap from overseas. However, since we have such a global economy, with many products, the best you can do is buy Assembled in the USA. And if you want a television or a smartphone, you can't even get one that's Assembled in the USA. Most folks don't have the time or inclination to find out countries of origin for raw materials and components and where assembly/manufacturing sites are located for the products they buy. If you're relying on a company's Made in the USA logo, you may be disappointed.
I'd say it's a pretty safe bet that every household in the US contains products made with questionable materials, work conditions or company oversight. Some might even be domestically produced. Of course, life support products are a special category where quality is paramount.
I'm not a fan of TS, don't think I've ever bought from them. I don't like businesses that constantly have sales. I'd rather do business with someone who prices their goods fairly every day. A sale often gives me the impression they've been overcharging the rest of the time.
evo
Been here much more than a while
- Location
- My Island, WA
Sweet, we have a litter of Cafferky’s on the way. Can’t find good arborists, just make them…. Check! Lesson learned and will be sure to tell my baby’s mama
evo
Been here much more than a while
- Location
- My Island, WA
Shit does it even matter anymore? Long long long time ago, when leather man started making other models other than the OG, I briefly worked for them assembling the multi tools. The pay SUCKED the hours were HORRIBLE, and I was a temp. I was the only white male on the assembly room floor other than the supervisors. In fact I think I was the only male worker in the assembly room, other than managers and QC. The race line and the gender line was VERY clear. From what I saw 99% of the jobs outside the assembly room were 99% white men. On the line it was 1% and that was me, making 8.50 an hour.
Point? What does made in America mean? Room for advancement if your gender and skin tone are right? Meanwhile the profits are raked in, and the labor abuses continue? It’s just dog whistle indentured servitude.
- Location
- Retired in Minneapolis
Pillow Guy lost a lawsuit that hinged on the real cost of his goods. The attorneys showed that the 'sale' price was the price since they always sold their goods at the discounted price, never the 'list' price they claimed.
Retail has changed drastically during my lifetime. When I was in 4th grade my family moved to a first tier 'burb of Mpls. very near where Dayton-Hudson Co. [ the originators of Target] were just finishing the building of one of their indoor shopping malls that went on the ring the Twin Cities with various ____dales. The Malls were anchored by large department stores and in-filled with descending sizes of stores. Main Street USA was doomed. Move forward decades and Brookdale was anchored by Sears, JC Penneys, Donaldsons and Daytons. Move forward further and now the only remains of that era of US retail is the shell of the main Sears building and the shell of it's auto repair shop. The rest of the buildings were demo'd and paved over years ago. Wal Mart has a mega store and there are strip mall sorta retail on the site. Even those strips have some huge vacancies. Retail has changed again. Online buying expedites this change.
Tracking country of origin is difficult. Loyalty to American retailers is challenged. Making buying decisions isn't easy if any thought is brought to the process.
This famous scene from my favorite movie comes to mind.
- Location
- Columbus
I just realized the question in the poll was cut off. It let me write the whole thing but it must have been too long to post.
The original question was:
Do you want products made in countries with questionable materials, work conditions, or company over 8,000 miles away from the manufacturing plant?
It may not be the best question or a loaded question but it is one people think about.
As far as metal origins go. I do know for a fact that when I look up rock exotica they aren't even in the system. All that means is that their supplier is in the US and they may possibly get things from outside the US but I cannot find that information.
There was a school built around where I live in 2007 that had to be completely torn down directly after being built. After final inspection they noticed the steel wasn't the steel in the original engineering and wasn't going to be able to support the load in adverse conditions. The company that did the contract ordered their beams from China in the spec'd material but were given something different. I'm sure everywhere tests things better now, but that's not to say accidents don't happen when there is lack of oversight.
- Location
- Retired in Minneapolis
While talking with a friend of mine from a gear manufacturing company we talked about country of origin sourcing. His company, like many, contract with companies all over the world, especially the Pacific Rim.
He told me that his company had a program of dropping in on their PR companies unannounced to to Quality Control inspections. As they were growing this network they weeded out companies that didn't pass specifications.
QC is such a key in any process.
He told me that his company had a program of dropping in on their PR companies unannounced to to Quality Control inspections. As they were growing this network they weeded out companies that didn't pass specifications.
QC is such a key in any process.
- Location
- Columbus
I do want to put our there that myself, and a few others have reached out to notch/VSG about RRP/manufacturing issues and have heard nothing back. Their voice-mail is full and they do not answer the phone during normal business hours when I or them have called. I emailed them about 2 weeks ago and have not had a response. Seeing as though most of us are professionals/business owners I'm very sure you understand the importance in some type of communication. Defend the company or not there is certainly some issues happening internally. If I were Silky, Pfanner, or any of the other large brands that use them as the sole North American distributor I would look into other options whenever these contracts expire. They obviously don't have the resources and/or the threat of competition pushing them to provide adequate customer service.
Helmstein
Participating member
- Location
- Berkshire county
Phanner Canada gets all my business. Fast shipping too!
Going back and reading the email you sent VSG, you write they are insane, greedy, lying thieves. And you write that you've boycotted them. The email comes across as your need to point out your perceived flaws in the way they run their business. In their shoes, I'm not sure I'd bother wasting customer service efforts responding to a non-customer who attacks so many aspects of my business, especially if any of your claims are inaccurate, and ESPECIALLY since you didn't ask for any type of REPLY.
How would you react if you received a similar letter about your business?
How would you react if you received a similar letter about your business?
ghostice
Been here a while
Interesting story about Trying NOT to buy "Made in China"
