NO spiking on removals.

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No reason to wear spikes on a non-removal, charge more and take the time to do it right.

ABSOLUTELY no reason to not wear spikes on a removal. Charge less do it right and get out of there.

This isnt highschool, we dont folow fads or do the cool thing, we cut down trees. It aint glamorous work! Most people arent impressed by my career of loading logs and chipping brush and they certainly wouldnt be impressed by me doing a removal without spikes on.
 
I find that Joe Public generally doesn't give a chit about treework. Get the job done safely and roll outta there. Occasionally you find someone who might respect the skill involved and let ya know. Me I could'nt care less, I get on with the job and collect the cheque. Spikes on a prune, haven't seen a tree down here that would call for that. We got some heavy leaners and broad spreaders to boot. Set a few lines and get the job done. 223-tree is correct, difficult prunes call for more money or move on ( time consuming ). Gotta call it how I see it Bix. Nothing personal.
 
I havent paid much attention to this thread. Bix why do you need a foot ascender when removing trees? Why not use both spikes? Its like climbing the stairs, using both feet rather than one. Why wear out the one leg, that you use all the time on prunes?
 
if you have a tie in point higher than what you are working on you won't or don't need spikes.

lose that high tie in and it only makes sense to wear spikes for work positioning if its a take down.

the only thing i care about is the highest tip when climbing. it allows for more options of positioning.

bixler, i worked with a dude that welded a hand ascender onto his spike. and he wore it pruning. i never understood his reasoning but he didn't like the pantin.

he doesn't work with us anymore if that says anything to his style.
 
hey swing, not for nothing but for someone who been climbing self taught for 3 years now you seem to have alot to say....

don't take it the wrong way but i still wouldn't trust you to fill the saw correctly if i worked with ya.
 
that's you.

most of the guys i've seen on their own with no training whatsoever i wouldn't even let them coil a rope because it won't be done the right way.
 
A climber who is good on spikes and gets good at spikeless pruning becomes even better and faster doing removals with them on. Once you blend the techniques together you become much more efficient removal climber. It's hard to believe someone could argue spikeless for removals.

This topic comes up on my crew with 1 guy. He is good at pruning, not so good on spikes. Says he can remove trees just as fast without them. Somehow its in his head that he doesn't need spikes. So I let him do what he likes spikeless pruning. Hes mad that he doesn't get many removals but its just slow and inefficient for him go at a removal without spikes.

A little off topic, but I'm not a fan of srt on removals. Not saying it doesn't have its place on some removals but just cause its new and cool doesn't mean its the best.
 
I've been doing srt removals for around twenty years...hardly 'new' for me ;)

It's rare that I'd do a removal without spikes. Sometimes the limb removals if it's small.
 
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if you have a tie in point higher than what you are working on you won't or don't need spikes.

lose that high tie in and it only makes sense to wear spikes for work positioning if its a take down.

the only thing i care about is the highest tip when climbing. it allows for more options of positioning.

bixler, i worked with a dude that welded a hand ascender onto his spike. and he wore it pruning. i never understood his reasoning but he didn't like the pantin.

he doesn't work with us anymore if that says anything to his style.

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agreed
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But old dirty, Swing may be self taught, but he is one heck of a treeworker.

Also, who the feck still coils ropes? put that shite in a bag
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hey swing, not for nothing but for someone who been climbing self taught for 3 years now you seem to have alot to say....

don't take it the wrong way but i still wouldn't trust you to fill the saw correctly if i worked with ya.

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Thank you dude for your vote of confidence, and also thankfully that the world is big enough and spacious enough that we need not work together. And I will continue to fill my own saws. It's all good.
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Swing, you could fill my saws any day, any time..or bag my lines, shoot, even coil one..being as I got more lines than babs...

And prolly better too....heck I've only been doing it for 40 years and still can't get it right...


now and then...


Now where's my walker...??
 
Thanks Roger, Tom and Cary I appreciate that some folks on the Buzz consider my participation here to be positive even for my lack of formal training or the few years I have been in the trees. I have always been a man that sets a high bar for others but an even higher bar for myself, attention to details is written all over my character and I do pride myself in doing the utmost best at all times. I don't take shortcuts. I have always been a quick study and love learning, treework has just come naturally for me and because of my age and maturity as well as my background I have been able to progress at a rapid pace using minimal resources and equipment. Have no crane or bucket experience, I just climb the tree, set the rigging, lower the wood to the ground and truck to the compost heap. Removals and pruning of tropical trees of all shapes and sizes. I never have tried to make out or isinuate that I am anything more that a simple dude who cuts trees on a small island in the caribbean. I am no high tech dude and I try to show my work and gear using photos as much as possible so my peers here can see what I do and also that I can learn ways to be safer and more productive. But I am no fool, so I like to talk about things I have experienced and the ways that work for me. With that I am thankful to be a member of this community. Speaking of photos here is a photo of some of the gear I use, nothing much but it gets the job done and help me provide for my family and earn a decent living.
 

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It's an optical illusion Roger, a trick I learned when I was a kid and my mom was inspecting my room. Pack everything neat and tidy and it appears like everything is clean. If I zoomed in on the ropes you would see how dirty they actually are. Also I live in a small townhouse where there is not much room hence these two racks, but there is a big drum downstairs with other gear. Unforunately no rope bags, I only coil so you see I am backwards.
 
I didn't quote ya because it would've taken up too much space but that is more or less what i'm talking about... i just had to read mucho blahblah to get to the end of the post and still got nothing from it.

When ya came here did you learn anything? I did.

You weren't too far from where i am, you could've used your time wisely if you were looking for knowledge ...
 
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