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This tree was freaking huge!
I have always loved and wanted to climb it.
My drive down Northern Avenue will never be the same.
I have no idea why they decided to take it down.
Its very very sad.


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Not trying to be a douche, but this is a tree that you always loved and wanted to climb, and you wind up being the guy that kills it? That kinda sucks.

Do you have a threshhold for what you'll take down? Do you try to talk the client into preserving the tree in situations like this? Again, I'm not trying to bust cubes, but I've dealt with alot of tree loss in my state/city/neighborhood, and after what I have seen and dealt with, I know that I will never be the guy that just removes these giants for the money. Too much at stake IMO.

PS, the 'I believe I can fly' bit was priceless.

-Tom
 
Nice work Jesse. One thing bothering me (sorry) is that you don't keep your thumb wrapped on the saw bar all the time. My Father would smack you, so I wanted to let you know that before he sees it.
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Great Vid, My 2 cents, once you commit to your back cut finish it. I notice many times you stop or your saw slows early before the cut is finished. When an alert crane operator hears this or sees your body language will start to increase tension to start accepting the load as he does this he finds the pick is heavier than he anticipated then before he realizes it you put your saw back and release the load. This causes it to bounce as seen in the video. The crane can't help you until you finish the cut. Try pulling a toothpik made from Euc apart sometime. It is that tiny piece that has a 200lbs breaking strength that adds all that movement to the pick. There was definately improvement as the video progressed. Please don't take it the wrong way its just what I noticed. It was very cool to see what a great time you where having that is most important. I know you are a natural.
 
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Nice job,

Kind of surprised no one said anything about all the swinging of the butts.

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someone told him in a PM.
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but no big deal.

but they definitely got better and good for him showing even the swinging/flipping ones that weren't perfect. that one near the building would have really flipped around, but it was in brush and the brush slowed it down. I do use brush and take a pick uneven if I know the brush will allow it to transition around slowly.

or, if it's going to be too much time to balance or I'm worried the butt might not weigh enough to keep it down, put a tag line on the butt to make sure it stays down.
 
I'm going to have to stick up for Jesse:
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The swinging butts aren't always the climbers fault. The crane operator wasn't working blind. The tip of the stick is the ultimate responsibility of the crane operator. But, if they were working blind, then Jesse would be responsible for placing the tip of the stick appropriately... (and I have a feeling Ed will get me for saying "tip of the stick")
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Rotating loads... well that's different...
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once you commit to your back cut finish it. I notice many times you stop or your saw slows early before the cut is finished. When an alert crane operator hears this or sees your body language will start to increase tension to start accepting the load as he does this he finds the pick is heavier than he anticipated then before he realizes it you put your saw back and release the load. This causes it to bounce as seen in the video. The crane can't help you until you finish the cut.

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I have to disagree.

Well, i agree I guess that some crane operators, or, maybe many non-climber operators might act like this. (the winching up when they hear the saw die down), but I've never known that. Guess the ones I've always worked with, listen to my direction.

But I guess I work with a better crane opperator than most. And no, I'm not talking about myself and the k-boom. Although, that would qualify too.
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I mean my younger brother running his Manitowoc and me climbing. He's a climber too and also owns his own tree service. So, he sees the pick size, specie and shape and knows what about the weight is and puts about that much tension on it. No way does he crank up on it when he hears the saw die down!

he follows my hand signs and I adjust him as I cut if I see the kerf isn't staying nice an even open (about the gap as the chainsaw bar thickness) as I go and I definitely feather the last inch slowly. I wouldn't finish that last inch or whatever if the kerf was opening up wide, or tilted or closing, I'd adjust him first. So, when i do finish that last toothpick fiber of wood, it doesn't matter if he winches up right away or waits for me to signal him to winch up. I allow the pick to rotate around and twist itself off on that last 1/4" if it needs to do so also.

He did have another operator that ran the crane with me too. he wasn't a tree guy, so before ever pick, I told him how much it was likely going to weigh and after the pick, he told me the weight. Often I'd only be 20 to 500lbs off.

Old way (in my opinion) of doing crane removals was, climber cut fairly fast, crane operator be VERY fast to get the pick up and away from the climber cause the pick will likely be rotating, flipping or spinning. Also another old way was big cranes ripping off the pick before the saw even finished it.

and what is "commiting to the back cut"? for me, there is no back cut with my crane picks, there is usually one cut, straight through. (I know some do snap/step cuts and they do work too).
 
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he follows my hand signs and I adjust him as I cut if I see the kerf isn't staying nice an even open (about the gap as the chainsaw bar thickness) as I go and I definitely feather the last inch slowly. I wouldn't finish that last inch or whatever if the kerf was opening up wide, or tilted or closing, I'd adjust him first. I allow the pick to rotate around and twist itself off on that last 1/4" if it needs to do so.

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That is the way I do it 100%



... and if a the crane op I'm working with starts cranking on the pick just because he hears my saw idle down, I'm a coming down and were having a talk.
 
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... and if a the crane op I'm working with starts cranking on the pick just because he hears my saw idle down, I'm a coming down and were having a talk.

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F'n A!
 
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The tip of the stick is the ultimate responsibility of the crane operator.

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You keep that mind set and the tip of your stick might get nipped one day. Unless you know the guy running it has many hours of tree related picks, even then it's still rather hard to judge the set point. I'd make sure the tip of the crane is in the right spot yourself.
 
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... saw on the right.

this way i can hang up my saw with my right hand and do it quickly, a frequent habbit i have is tossing the saw in the air slightly, catching the saw lanyard at the ring and hanging it up. I do it without thinking about it and it's very fast I think.



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I do this exactly. I rarely even look for the snap, just feel the ring click in, a little confirmation shake, and let go.

I keep my handsaw on the other side, with my adjuster, and potentially cutable/ "pick-able" things, because I usually have to eyeball at least the saw tip into the scabbard.


Jesse,

Seems like you just need to adjust your system. I think it can be better to figure out what will be most productive in the long term, and adjust to that, if its workable. You will adjust to it. Personalize to how you climb now, and how you want to climb.

Good work!
 
The guy I use has logged nearly 500 tree removals. I trust him all the time. He is spot on 99 times out of 100. Unless... it's blind. Then, I'm calling it out. And like you said, it's difficult for the climber to get it perfect.
 
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once you commit to your back cut finish it. I notice many times you stop or your saw slows early before the cut is finished. When an alert crane operator hears this or sees your body language will start to increase tension to start accepting the load as he does this he finds the pick is heavier than he anticipated then before he realizes it you put your saw back and release the load. This causes it to bounce as seen in the video. The crane can't help you until you finish the cut.

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I have to disagree.



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I agree... with X's disagreeing.
 
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