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You smoke? Bummer.

Far as a challenge goes, heck no, I'm fine challenging myself. If you are a good tree man, more power to you. I already know where my strengths and weaknesses are without setting up an internet challenge. LOL.
 
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I dont think it would be possible to really challenge anyone via the internet.Some guys are really good at removals some are great at pruning others are great at telling you how its done.Thru the years I always challenged myself to go faster than my co workers.But its hard sometimes when the guy next to you is not doing as good of a job or cutting corners on safety or quality of work.Some guys are really good at leaving trash in the tops out of sight.What really matters to me most is quality now,but you got to balance that with speed or you dont make any money and your client gets the short end if your time and material.If seen guys spend 45 minutes trying to get that perfect crotch thats ridiculous,just get up there and re crotch.The Tcc's are a great venue if guys want to compete against each and see whos better that day.Probably the only realistic way to compete against your peers who are across the country.Its weird Im really competitive on the job but the TCC is more fun and less of a competitive event than working to me.In the long run what really matters is character,that truly defines and how we work and who we are. BTW I actually stepped on my own rope today,lucky no one saw it-i did it on purpose just to see what it felt like.Well I think it was my rope.
 
Back when I was framing houses we where freaked at how much faster other crews were putting up the same houses as us. When we checked out the work we realized it was due to the corners they cut, leaving a shoddy product. The other trades that came in afterwards to put in mechanicals took less time with our houses. It balanced out in one way but the customer got a lesser quality home with those framed by the other crews.

Speed and quality don't always go hand in hand.
 
Yeah I once barroed a climber from another company,we had a really large job that needed to get done in a day.I think me ,him and a couple few other climbers all entereed our trees the same time.All live Oaks that had never been pruned,about the same size.Dude was out of his tree like 45 minutes before I was done.The other climbers where still in their trees.I was like man,dude must be smoking us-but I hardly heard his saw.Anyway I looked it over and sent him on his way,one of my others climbers had to do the tree again and it took and hour and a half more
 
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Not stepping on someone else's rope has always been a sign of respect. There will be times when it can't be avoided but they're pretty rare I've found.

In my experience when I'm around people who walk on ropes they're sloppy and irresponsible with other things too. At least making an attempt to not walk on ropes is endearing.

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Tom - stepping on ropes might be close kin to tripping on ropes or snagging ropes?
 
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Back when I was framing houses we where freaked at how much faster other crews were putting up the same houses as us. When we checked out the work we realized it was due to the corners they cut, leaving a shoddy product. The other trades that came in afterwards to put in mechanicals took less time with our houses. It balanced out in one way but the customer got a lesser quality home with those framed by the other crews.

Speed and quality don't always go hand in hand.

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Generally true.

I only remember one exception.

We were building condos. I was on the repair crew. Our job was to find defects and deficiencies in the frames and correct or reinforce. One issue were floor joists the right size for carpet floors, but failed to meet the fact that lightweight concrete was to be poured to buffer sound.

So me and this other guy had to go and double the floor joists.

He was like 5 feet and 7 inches tall. I'm 6 feet and 4 inches and reach a lot higher. So he had to use a ladder to place all the joists, and move the ladder everywhere he fastened them. I was able to just reach and lift the joist in place, hold with one hand, pin it in place with one big nail, and finish all the rest of the fastening on foot - no ladders. Took him 3 times longer.

So I got a promotion - the bosses figured I was a better worker, when it was merely a matter of being about 8 inches taller.
 
Guys seriously, If one of the groundies gets on my rope by accident then it is really no big deal. If I see them repeatedly steppin on it I will ask them to move my line to a "neutral" zone. If they dont move it, and continue to step on it I will be somewhat pissed, mostly because they didnt move it, not because it got stepped on again. But I do feel that it is an issue of respect. Just like I dont like anyone messing with my climbing gear, or even packing it up for me, simply because my life is in its hands.

I only smoke in a tree if it is a left handed cigarette!!!
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Speed and quality don't always go hand in hand.

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Speed and quality almost never go hand in hand unless a ton of money is involved.

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I might disagree here. Sometimes it does. I like to think that someone who really prides themselves on what they do and not who is watching them can do it fast and at the highest level. Now I'm not saying that is common
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I agree 100% Mark.Ive been doing tree care my entire life and those who can do both are few and far between.Alot of guys talk the talk,but only few can truly deliver.
 
Stepping on the rope comes from the rock climbing realm....where it can be important. Grinding you lead line against sharp rock and sand will make you worry if you about to ride it big........We always said, "if you step on my rope...you owe me a beer"
 
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