Myth

[Blinky]

When I was climbing rock all the time it was a rule that if you stepped on someone's rope you owed them a beer, if you stepped on it again, you owed them another beer.

In Wilderness Search and Rescue, Setnika describes a scenario where the strength of kernmantal rope could be degraded if coarse sand got into the core but they could never get enough sand through the jacket to do the damage.

The OnRope guys did their study and it supports the idea that dirt working into rope doesn't result in much loss of strength.

To me though, it is a sign of respect both for the rope's owner and the job the rope performs. I don't step on saws or biners either.

 

[KentuckySawyer]

All this discussion is informative and interesting. Keeping ropes clean and respected vs. seeing them as utilitarian means to an end, is all fine and good...

But the main thing is this....


This thread cannot die!


Come on people. We're already up to six pages of BS and bickering! The Geezer's 2008 and KYTCC 2007 threads filled up 25-30 pages. And all those people liked each other! There are enough a$$holes and ballerinas posting on this thread to hit forty pages easy.

Its like Thelma and Louise. I'll be Thelma, you all can be Louise. Take my hand and lets drive this thread off a cliff!


PS- If anyone steps on my rope, I'm pooping in their gearbag.

 

[tophopper]

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There are enough a$$holes and ballerinas posting on this thread

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There can be only one!

 

[Crazy_Jimmy]

Highlander!

 

[UrbanTC]

I just knew it was a matter of time before you chimed in on this thread, Cory. I couldn't imagine 25-30 pages of "MYTH"!!!! Then again, if it did make it that far.....nevermind. It won't.

 

[Noel]

I'm very surprised nobody chimed in when Hollen said there's nothing wrong with smoking while you are climbing. That's another very polarized issue, I'm sure.

 

[UrbanTC]

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I'm very surprised nobody chimed in when Hollen said there's nothing wrong with smoking while you are climbing. That's another very polarized issue, I'm sure.

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Then again, it just might make it to 25-30 pages.

 

[HÖLLENREICH]

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I'm very surprised nobody chimed in when Hollen said there's nothing wrong with smoking while you are climbing. That's another very polarized issue, I'm sure.

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There are enough a$$holes and ballerinas posting on this thread to hit forty pages easy.

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well I glad for once to be a ya ho, MR BALLERINA.

 

[tophopper]

Whats wrong with smoking in a tree?

 

[HÖLLENREICH]

the tree huggers don't like it, I say it's like givin the tree a boost of carbon dioxide.

 

[cuttenwolf]

Hard to see thru the CANOPY. I imagine a tree without a canopy would be easier.

 

[Tom Dunlap]

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Whats wrong with smoking in a tree?

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Is that ES in your avie, John?

There are several layers here...

Sitting in the tree taking a 'smoke break' while the rest of the crew, non-smokers, keep working wouldn't cut the cake on many crews I'll bet. If a person can work and smoke without one interfering with the other that could work...if smoking while working was OK...and that's another level.

My Dad told me when I was about 7 that a cigarette could be put out in gas. But...the fumes could be ignited by the butt. Is anyone interested in playing Mythbuster? I know that the MB gang has done some of this stuff already. The risk of an accident from smoking while fueling sure doesn't make sense to me.

 

[HÖLLENREICH]

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Sitting in the tree taking a 'smoke break' while the rest of the crew, non-smokers, keep working wouldn't cut the cake

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But I only do it, while I'm waiting for you to catch up.

 

[tophopper]

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Sitting in the tree taking a 'smoke break' while the rest of the crew, non-smokers, keep working wouldn't cut the cake

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But I only do it, while I'm waiting for you to catch up.

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Mythbusters already did it. They tried blowing buster of a toilet filled with gasoline by throwing a cig in it. Nothing

Everyone is entitled to a short break from time to time, smoker or not. I am a smoker but no longer smoke while I climb, but did for a long time. When I did, it didnt slow production at all, I either kept climbing and cutting or I was already sitting waiting on the ground crew for something anyway. Sometimes climbing requires stopping and waiting for a few minutes. And even so, if anyone, smoker or not, needs 5 minutes and its not a critical moment during the job, take the 5 minutes. I agree though there is a fine line in which one could be perceived of abusing this.

 

[jim454]

I suppose it depends on what you're smokin'

 

[tophopper]

You dont have a carabiner clip on your bong Jim?

 

[jim454]

no John,

Where did you get yours?

 

[treehumper]

As long as there's no fire hazard at the time then whatever. I saw a new house under construction go up in flames from a cigarette landing in a flammable building material. 2 minutes the framed house was engulfed. This was the result of a combination of circumstances, dry, stupidly hot, southern side, etc... The crew made it off the roof with no time to spare. The aftermath was 3 2700 sq ft houses destroyed and a 4th needing a new brick wall. The costs were huge.

Extreme example? Maybe, but it goes to the point of responsible behaviour.

 

[cory]

I've only seen one climber that smoked who was any good. And this guy was very good, smooth, and productive. He had a cool looking little gear bag on his saddle for the cigs. The last time I saw him climb was about 10 years ago. He died about 5 years ago of cancer, age approx 45.

Most smokers seem weak in mind and body.

 

[HÖLLENREICH]

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Most smokers seem weak in mind and body.


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This is yet just one more joke, in this long line of tree princesses post right??

Care to put your money where your mouth is? Tree for tree job for job?