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My New K-Boom
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classictruckman
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- Ottawa Valley, Ontario, Canada
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CTM, now running both a 38 ton Manitex and a K boom, will be able to give us all some further insights on how they compare, right CTM??
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Well this is a 44 ton/meter, most stick booms are rated at 6'( ~ 2 meters) which makes this like a 22 ton stick boom. So as far as lifting capacity goes there's no comparison.
The kboom definately seems to move faster, but because of the lower capacity you have to take smaller lifts than the stick boom. After reaching over a house yesterday for a 50' maple we came to the decision that this one will likely do frontyard trees, jobs with good access, and be a trash/log truck.
The stick boom was easier to learn the controls on, I keep pulling the wrong levers, or pulling them the wrong way.
I am still learning alot about it and what it will do for me in the future.
CTM, now running both a 38 ton Manitex and a K boom, will be able to give us all some further insights on how they compare, right CTM??
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Well this is a 44 ton/meter, most stick booms are rated at 6'( ~ 2 meters) which makes this like a 22 ton stick boom. So as far as lifting capacity goes there's no comparison.
The kboom definately seems to move faster, but because of the lower capacity you have to take smaller lifts than the stick boom. After reaching over a house yesterday for a 50' maple we came to the decision that this one will likely do frontyard trees, jobs with good access, and be a trash/log truck.
The stick boom was easier to learn the controls on, I keep pulling the wrong levers, or pulling them the wrong way.
I am still learning alot about it and what it will do for me in the future.
- Location
- Billerica, MA
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photo of a pick you couldn't do with a stick (see attachment)
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Why? Seems like a straightforward pick.
Are u just talking about how far u are reaching?
have u ran an at, htc, or large boom truck before? For an extended peroid Of time.
I used to think that large all terrain cranes were slow and complicated and very limited until I spent sometime actually running them.
what a rental operator can do sitting in the seat verse what you can do running it yourself are very different things
photo of a pick you couldn't do with a stick (see attachment)
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Why? Seems like a straightforward pick.
Are u just talking about how far u are reaching?
have u ran an at, htc, or large boom truck before? For an extended peroid Of time.
I used to think that large all terrain cranes were slow and complicated and very limited until I spent sometime actually running them.
what a rental operator can do sitting in the seat verse what you can do running it yourself are very different things
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- Longmont, CO
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Well this is a 44 ton/meter, most stick booms are rated at 6'( ~ 2 meters) which makes this like a 22 ton stick boom. So as far as lifting capacity goes there's no comparison.
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James. You're making a statement about your rig, right? Because certainly if one wanted to make up for that... you get something larger.
I've come to the conclusion, if I got one, I'd need something larger than a 85 ton Kboom to reach and lift what I'm used to with subbing out a 40 ton stick boom.
And Mike's example of setting up a Kboom and working while under a tree is awesome. I'm always casing out jobs and thinking, "I need a Kboom!"
Awesome phot Mike.
Well this is a 44 ton/meter, most stick booms are rated at 6'( ~ 2 meters) which makes this like a 22 ton stick boom. So as far as lifting capacity goes there's no comparison.
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James. You're making a statement about your rig, right? Because certainly if one wanted to make up for that... you get something larger.
I've come to the conclusion, if I got one, I'd need something larger than a 85 ton Kboom to reach and lift what I'm used to with subbing out a 40 ton stick boom.
And Mike's example of setting up a Kboom and working while under a tree is awesome. I'm always casing out jobs and thinking, "I need a Kboom!"
Awesome phot Mike.
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allmark
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It all depends on what you are doing and where the comparisons are made. What is the lifting capacity of a boom truck ,hydraulic crane or at crane at 100'radius with the boom tip at 10' height?
my crane is 1210#
then take the same crane at a 5.' radius max lift and mine is 36000#(with the jib removed)
depending on which # you look at you will select one crane over the other.
my crane is 1210#
then take the same crane at a 5.' radius max lift and mine is 36000#(with the jib removed)
depending on which # you look at you will select one crane over the other.
classictruckman
Participating member
- Location
- Ottawa Valley, Ontario, Canada
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James. You're making a statement about your rig, right? Because certainly if one wanted to make up for that... you get something larger.
I've come to the conclusion, if I got one, I'd need something larger than a 85 ton Kboom to reach and lift what I'm used to with subbing out a 40 ton stick boom.
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Yes thats right, if you want one like a 40 ton stickboom you may look at one like this
James. You're making a statement about your rig, right? Because certainly if one wanted to make up for that... you get something larger.
I've come to the conclusion, if I got one, I'd need something larger than a 85 ton Kboom to reach and lift what I'm used to with subbing out a 40 ton stick boom.
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Yes thats right, if you want one like a 40 ton stickboom you may look at one like this
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- urbana, il.
Marquis the point of the photo was that the 1st & 2nd booms were against stems of the tree I was parked under and coudnt go any higher so I used the 3rd boom/jib OVERCENTER to lift the picks out. Your stick couldn't do that. I'm not saying kbooms are the only way. I was doing crane jobs with AT and TRK cranes since the late 70s. After studying both for yrs it was a no brainer for me. Knucklebooms are way too versatile and maneuverable. Another big help for me was I started using remote control in the tree in 1994. Everyones got their own style in arboriculture and just about all on this site are really good. CANT WAIT FOR MORE PHOTOS CLASSIC!
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- Home of the New Jersey Devils
Jamin, I think what he is comparing is a 44ton meter knuckle and a 44 ton stick boom. Then there is a big difference because of the rating system.
- Location
- Billerica, MA
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Marquis the point of the photo was that the 1st & 2nd booms were against stems of the tree I was parked under and coudnt go any higher so I used the 3rd boom/jib OVERCENTER to lift the picks out. Your stick couldn't do that. I'm not saying kbooms are the only way. I was doing crane jobs with AT and TRK cranes since the late 70s. After studying both for yrs it was a no brainer for me. Knucklebooms are way too versatile and maneuverable. Another big help for me was I started using remote control in the tree in 1994. Everyones got their own style in arboriculture and just about all on this site are really good. CANT WAIT FOR MORE PHOTOS CLASSIC!
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I see mike, like I said before I want to understand these kbooms more, we are getting ready to add another crane to the fleet and there are a lot of options out there. Of course none of which are cheap.
I am guessing this job here could have been easier with a kboom, not the greatest picture but there is a large red oak fallen on the house, the trunk had broken off about 20' above the roof and hanging on by a couple splinters and the top was on the on the roof. The HO hadnt taken any trees out ever, not set up to get over the canopy (regardless of the size of crane) so we worked under the trees. This was one of those days where having a internal LIM wire was very nice.
How are the kbooms with external hoses wires ect. do branches ever get inside of the boom sections like they can on regular cranes?
Marquis the point of the photo was that the 1st & 2nd booms were against stems of the tree I was parked under and coudnt go any higher so I used the 3rd boom/jib OVERCENTER to lift the picks out. Your stick couldn't do that. I'm not saying kbooms are the only way. I was doing crane jobs with AT and TRK cranes since the late 70s. After studying both for yrs it was a no brainer for me. Knucklebooms are way too versatile and maneuverable. Another big help for me was I started using remote control in the tree in 1994. Everyones got their own style in arboriculture and just about all on this site are really good. CANT WAIT FOR MORE PHOTOS CLASSIC!
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I see mike, like I said before I want to understand these kbooms more, we are getting ready to add another crane to the fleet and there are a lot of options out there. Of course none of which are cheap.
I am guessing this job here could have been easier with a kboom, not the greatest picture but there is a large red oak fallen on the house, the trunk had broken off about 20' above the roof and hanging on by a couple splinters and the top was on the on the roof. The HO hadnt taken any trees out ever, not set up to get over the canopy (regardless of the size of crane) so we worked under the trees. This was one of those days where having a internal LIM wire was very nice.
How are the kbooms with external hoses wires ect. do branches ever get inside of the boom sections like they can on regular cranes?
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- Location
- Longmont, CO
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Jamin, I think what he is comparing is a 44ton meter knuckle and a 44 ton stick boom. Then there is a big difference because of the rating system.
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Yep. I've understood that.
Since I've been communicative about the future purchase of a Kboom, "I've come to the conclusion, if I got one, I'd need (really want) something larger than a 85 ton Kboom to reach and lift what I'm used to with subbing out a 40 ton stick boom."
Jamin, I think what he is comparing is a 44ton meter knuckle and a 44 ton stick boom. Then there is a big difference because of the rating system.
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Yep. I've understood that.
Since I've been communicative about the future purchase of a Kboom, "I've come to the conclusion, if I got one, I'd need (really want) something larger than a 85 ton Kboom to reach and lift what I'm used to with subbing out a 40 ton stick boom."
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- Home of the New Jersey Devils
I would agree Jamin.
Marquis, one thing that I really like about your photo is that you worked in that tight area instead of doing what most do and remove three other trees to get access to the one.
Marquis, one thing that I really like about your photo is that you worked in that tight area instead of doing what most do and remove three other trees to get access to the one.
classictruckman
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- Ottawa Valley, Ontario, Canada
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remind me to tell u a secrete thought on the levers... Helps really well.
can't think right now, so tired I'm dreaming...
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Anything would help, I think the problem is I'm used to running cranes, buckets, excavators, etc. with joysticks or hydraulic valves and this remote has 8 finger tip electric levers and I have trouble remembering which finger does what and which direction.
I'm thinking of ordering 2 cover plates and removing the 2 excess levers, maybe that would help.
remind me to tell u a secrete thought on the levers... Helps really well.
can't think right now, so tired I'm dreaming...
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Anything would help, I think the problem is I'm used to running cranes, buckets, excavators, etc. with joysticks or hydraulic valves and this remote has 8 finger tip electric levers and I have trouble remembering which finger does what and which direction.
I'm thinking of ordering 2 cover plates and removing the 2 excess levers, maybe that would help.
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- Location
- urbana, il.
I've got the scanreco remote on the 55 ton (mine doesn't have the weight readout.....that's sweet) I did the same thing first week and removed the last 2levers on the right side! That made it more similar to the oldsberg remote I had on my old hiab. I give You about 2more weeks and that remote and crane will become like part of you. That rear mount gives you about 10 extra feet of reach......NICE
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- urbana, il.
Classic you could color code the levers w/colored electrical tape
classictruckman
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- Location
- Ottawa Valley, Ontario, Canada
It has decals on it, I try not to look at the remote while running it though.
Mine doesn't have the weight readout either, that was just a pic I found on google, mine actually has a % of capacity display.
Mine doesn't have the weight readout either, that was just a pic I found on google, mine actually has a % of capacity display.
classictruckman
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- Location
- Ottawa Valley, Ontario, Canada
Tried to get some helmet cam footage today, but my batteries crapped out 10 sec. in
I have some footage of James and the Grapple if I can figure out how to attach it
- Location
- Longmont, CO
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I have some footage of James and the Grapple if I can figure out how to attach it
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If you already put it on Youtube, just right click the address bar (when you are viewing the video on Youtube), click "copy." Then, just "paste" on the thread here.
That should do it.
I have some footage of James and the Grapple if I can figure out how to attach it
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If you already put it on Youtube, just right click the address bar (when you are viewing the video on Youtube), click "copy." Then, just "paste" on the thread here.
That should do it.
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