Long lanyard management ...have I over thought things?

Meanwhile...

Concerning lanyard spaghetti.

The truth is, it's only maybe two-three times a month! that I really need ALL my super long complicated lanyard, so most of the time between half and three quarters of the thing is dead weight! However. Most of the time I am working with inexperienced ground crew or solo, so though I keep things as minimalist as I can, I like to keep as many bases covered as possible. So, my stupid long complicated lanyard/mini-second-climbing-line stays top of the bag!

...yet. I am irked by the dead weight & tangles for the rest of the time, so, anyone tried this configuration as a way of pulling up some of that slack and putting it to good use?
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...Effectively a dddrt lanyard! The draw backs that I can see straight off the bat are:
first, I would be doubling the friction around the back of the limb. Second, it's impossible to convert to using the full length lanyard without unclipping and resetting.

Benefits:
first, 2to1 advantage on the lanyard!...(not sure how that works when combined with the doubled bark friction??...)
Second, spreading the lines across the back of the limb would add stability.
Third, more stuff on the hip to be re-appropriated for other functions (as needed)
Fourth: full(single) line length there when needed.

Fifth and final: security...

I think I'll give it a try!

(Roll'n'lock is for demonstration purposes. Seems I've lost another pinto! :muyenojado: )
 
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Well, now that we've studied Chinese Poontang and its relevance to tree work... I'm thinking about getting some 10mm Ocean Polyester and another Trango Cinch for a long lanyard. I'm thinking that would cut the weight down, and the amount of room it takes up in a ditty bag.
 
Well, now that we've studied Chinese Poontang and its relevance to tree work... I'm thinking about getting some 10mm Ocean Polyester and another Trango Cinch for a long lanyard. I'm thinking that would cut the weight down, and the amount of room it takes up in a ditty bag.
I tried 10mm OP as lanyard fodder quite recently. It's true it compacts like a dream and daisy-chains like plaited hair! But it's ware-resistance in this function was terrible! Sliding on and grabbing a climb line is what it's for. After only 1 month most of the thing, around 75% of 7-8 meters, looked as hairy as a row of catapilars (not the nice kind) with string hanging out everywhere! I do a lot of work in pines, cedars, palms, olives etc....a lot of pins, pegs, rough bark and raw knuckles. Maybe that had something to do with it...

But still! Come on! ONE MONTH?!!!..

(actually I lost confidence in the thing after only two weeks!)
 
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I've used 9mm htp as a long lanyard before, I think it was 20-25 ft. 6mm vectran in a michoacan or vt and a tiny ronstan thimble to tend. It worked great, tended and released smoothly, stiff enough to flip on smaller trees. The whole thing was nice and compact and light, cant say the same for 20' of tritech.
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Since going srt I've shortened up to 12ft of tritech and a bola. Best yet.
 
Meanwhile...

Concerning lanyard spaghetti.

The truth is, it's only maybe two-three times a month! that I really need ALL my super long complicated lanyard, so most of the time between half and three quarters of the thing is dead weight! However. Most of the time I am working with inexperienced ground crew or solo, so though I keep things as minimalist as I can, I like to keep as many bases covered as possible. So, my stupid long complicated lanyard/mini-second-climbing-line stays top of the bag!

...yet. I am irked by the dead weight & tangles for the rest of the time, so, anyone tried this configuration as a way of pulling up some of that slack and putting it to good use?
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...Effectively a dddrt lanyard! The draw backs that I can see straight off the bat are:
first, I would be doubling the friction around the back of the limb. Second, it's impossible to convert to using the full length lanyard without unclipping and resetting.

Benefits:
first, 2to1 advantage on the lanyard!...(not sure how that works when combined with the doubled bark friction??...)
Second, spreading the lines across the back of the limb would add stability.
Third, more stuff on the hip to be re-appropriated for other functions (as needed)
Fourth: full(single) line length there when needed.

Fifth and final: security...

I think I'll give it a try!

(Roll'n'lock is for demonstration purposes. Seems I've lost another pinto! :muyenojado: )
So, after digging out what I suspect is my last spare pulley, and trying this, I can report:

Job: deadwooding a bay. Ring barking caused by rats! (...Lots of helmet pruning of dead twigs.) not ideal.

Findings: Cons = as suspected, that extra friction around the limb really sucks. Adjusting under weight feels harder, especially if the limb is large or bend radius tight. Also, it requires a second action, a a push/sit-back into the saddle to pull the lines into the right adjustment. (...not so hard, leg work really, but still...)
Pros = the added stability when lines are spread along the back of the branch is awesome! It allowed me to make a cut that normally I would have needed to throw round a strap!

Conclusion:

(... I'll hold judgement until I work in something with a more open canopy)

(..has potential though)
 
So, after digging out what I suspect is my last spare pulley, and trying this, I can report:

Job: deadwooding a bay. Ring barking caused by rats! (...Lots of helmet pruning of dead twigs.) not ideal.

Findings: Cons = as suspected, that extra friction around the limb really sucks. Adjusting under weight feels harder, especially if the limb is large or bend radius tight. Also, it requires a second action, a a push/sit-back into the saddle to pull the lines into the right adjustment. (...not so hard, leg work really, but still...)
Pros = the added stability when lines are spread along the back of the branch is awesome! It allowed me to make a cut that normally I would have needed to throw round a strap!

Conclusion:

(... I'll hold judgement until I work in something with a more open canopy)

(..has potential though)
"So...
You need more pulleys?... Let me clear my throat..."
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Scuba clip just arrived, looks sturdy for a plastic clip, 11mm work pro snaps in pretty tight, I don't think it would hold a much larger diameter line.

Haven't tried it in a tree yet, got 4 more inches of snow last night :raro2:

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I have the lanyard manager clips i use from treestuff. I have probably 40 to 50 feet on my lanyard that i fly with everyday. I regularly dont use more than 15 feet, but i always used to think 'man i wish i just had a little more lanyard' on those tougher prunes. I daisy chain it all and seperate it into 3 sections with the manager clips. If i had my saddle with me id take a picture. Sure it weighs a ton, especially with the cougar blue im using, but im always prepared. I use it as a second climbing line on real sketchy limbwalks with srt. So far i havent once wished it was shorter

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