ITTC in St. Louis...and the winner is...

Congrats to all. Wish i could see the climbs. Does any one have any videos of the events or climbs? I would love to watch a full climb, just once. ANYONE with vid of the climbs PLEASE contact me. Countryboypa31@yahoo.com you can just send them there. Thank you.

Congrats to all.
 
there were 14 women competitors - all great climbers with New Zealand having a few - it was great to get to climb with many of them after the masters on sunday - can you image - 14 women in one tree ages from 11 to 53

WHAT A THRILL

photos will be posted this week - I am tired and my knees are sore

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Ive got all the masters climbs on video,heck ive got em all from the last four years.Yeah you could of scored this one several different ways really close.I guess you look for some different things when your in that ring and got them score sheets.
 
All the climbers in the masters were great. It was a big spreading oak with a lot of inner branches. In the men’s everyone got their first throw or big shot. I think
Beddes won it again because he set two anchor points, this gave him less rope angle on two of the stations that everyone else had some wicked angles on.
 
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Ive got all the masters climbs on video,heck ive got em all from the last four years.Yeah you could of scored this one several different ways really close.I guess you look for some different things when your in that ring and got them score sheets.

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Got any copies for sale?
 
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Ive got all the masters climbs on video,heck ive got em all from the last four years.Yeah you could of scored this one several different ways really close.I guess you look for some different things when your in that ring and got them score sheets.

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Got any copies for sale?

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Or put them up on you tube
 
beddes won it hands down with that technique, I felt the other three were all amazing but i cant figure out what the judges were so hard on Jared for, I found his climb to be absolutely beautiful and much much faster than any of the others. I wonder if his moving so fast made him look rushed. Forest really used every minute that they gave him and he walked through the whole climb at an easy stroll. that was cool. Regardless of the outcome, I learned a lot watching those guys.
 
Jared had a phenomenal climb and was very smooth through the entire tree, he did get dinged though for a daisy chained carabiner that was promptly fixed and was entirely accidental. I hope someday to look that smooth in a tree.
 
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Strasser I believe could have easily come in second this year.

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That was my feeling too.

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The finish was a dead heat between the first three places.Only about 2.5 percent spread in three places. If all four are calculated the spread is less than 10%. That is too close to call.
 
Beddis had a good climb, but I feel he was 2nd/3rd in the ranks. he couldn't find the limbwalk station (crowd had to tell him) and he had a rather ugly swing off the LW station and got hung up on some growth causing him to swing back into the leader and brush on it.


I thought Mark had a slick setup with his tie in, and tie off of his floating anchor. he also got out further than anyone on the LW and when he lanyarded in and pulled tight the plumb bob almost came through the ring on the sensor....pure strength. the whole crowd in that area was yelling thinking he would tip it over.

jared was very smooth. he had a great climb abd he should have gotten 3rd. he is also a great guy with a huge heart. his wife and on are very cool too....even though his son can't talk. lol!

when the results were announced and the 4 guys were on stage, there was an overwhelming Spunched in the gut gasp that Marks name was announced as thrid place. I was sad to hear this.
 
beddes was the only one that completed all stations successfully and got his throw line in the top of the tree at first throw. Mark had a poor TIP. The result I was most suprised about was Jared who I had watched climb all day and was continually blown away by his skills and personality. I missed the biner incident. But yeah it was basically to close to call. Glad I wasnt a judge.
 
Ok look,Mark won hands down. Yea Yea there were some rope angle issues but he handled that with confident postureing witch never made it seem that he was in any danger.Strasser was lost and needed help twice to find the stations as well as almost giving up on the limb walk.He was totally out of sorts very un-Strasser like moves and posture.Scott rang the buzzer, thats that.Cant figure how he places second thats allot of points to take from Mark right there.I have been a climber at the ITCC seven times and never have I questioned the outcome , until now.All are phenominal climbers and I take nothing away from any thats simply the way I saw it.
 
I think we all need to look at this in a slightly different light. The climb that Mark had was unbelievably smooth, well planned and well executed. From the ground and from the air it would be hard to look at that climb and not think that you had just witnessed a climb that could not be beat. Looking at the climb from a score sheet perspective would be quite a bit different. The judges are charged with scoring the many various aspects of a climb and to make sure that they are consistent throughout the scoring process. If a judge deems that a climber has a bad rope angle they will most likely take off significant points for that infraction. The judge may also deem that due to the angle there was a possibility of a hard fall and therefore take off points for unsafe acts. The fact that a climber has the skills to make a bad angle look incredibly easy does not diminish the potential for danger. I'm not saying that Mark was climbing dangerously or even saying that he was being overly unsafe, but his ability to climb on a hard rope angle is just not something that a judge is going to reward in my mind.

At first I was quite surprised by the results as well as many others, but the fact is that the score sheets determine the results, not the public opinion. Mark is an extremely talented climber who has more experience with ITCC Master Climbs than anyone on the planet. He knows the score sheets inside out and upside down. Certainly he knows what the judges are looking for and therefore, my guess is that he can understand how the results came out the way they did. Just my two cents.
 
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I agree. I have seen quite a few Masters Challenges, and most of the time, it is easy to narrow down who the eventual winner will be (who set the first line, hit all the stations, etc.). At this ITCC, I thought all of the Masters Challenge contestants put on a great climb, and in my mind, it was a toss-up between Mark and Scott. I was surprised when Beddes won again, but after learning that all of the scores were so close, I was just glad I didn't have to be a scoring judge in that Masters.

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" Certainly he knows what the judges are looking for and therefore, my guess is that he can understand how the results came out the way they did. Just my two cents. "

Isn't it a shame someone has to get used to being robbed. I'm glad I wasn't there , I saw Mark get robbed twice. I don't know because I didn't see tis one , but Mark does have a lot more class than most people.
 
I've only been to a 4 ISA treeclimbing comps, and I cant understand why they even bother with the 'master's climb'. The overall winner should be whoever scores the most with the five events and thats it.
 
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Mark does have a lot more class than most people.

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gotta agree with that. as for robbed, i don't know. having judged a master's (nashville), i know it's a difficult job. i tried to get the inside scoop on who had won st louis and even the judges said it was too close to call. the scoresheet is what it is, and the playing field (i believe) as far as the judges go is as level as humanly possible. it's anybody's game on master's day, with the "new life" format anyway. life is that way too, yeah? dan kraus missed winning in pittsburgh by like .04 of a point or something crazy - just part of the game.

i was rootin for mark too, though..
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