tomthetreeman
Participating member
- Location
- Rhode Island
Re: It\'s Sooo Big.....
Peter is one of the best speakers I have ever seen.
Peter is one of the best speakers I have ever seen.
It's Sooo Big.....
- Thread starter treehumper
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- Home of the New Jersey Devils
Re: It\'s Sooo Big.....
I too have a hard time trying to ask clients to trust in their trees. What if? How will I feel when a tree I convinced them to save hurts or kills someone they love?tough one.
One thing I can say is that in all my years I have seen very few trees that have caused human injury at all. That is a good thing. Plenty of houses damaged, but not many people hurt.
I too have a hard time trying to ask clients to trust in their trees. What if? How will I feel when a tree I convinced them to save hurts or kills someone they love?tough one.
One thing I can say is that in all my years I have seen very few trees that have caused human injury at all. That is a good thing. Plenty of houses damaged, but not many people hurt.
RopeShield
Carpal tunnel level member
- Location
- Ontario, Canada
Re: It\'s Sooo Big.....
Looked at one today. Its sooo big and soo cracked!
Big old soldier of a Sugar with a chain and big split. Much like chained sugar I did last year sans cement.
He wants to ctg for his girls and barn.
It'll be a tough sell but in the end its his family and his tree.
I will price the maintenance low in hopes!
Looked at one today. Its sooo big and soo cracked!
Big old soldier of a Sugar with a chain and big split. Much like chained sugar I did last year sans cement.
He wants to ctg for his girls and barn.
It'll be a tough sell but in the end its his family and his tree.
I will price the maintenance low in hopes!
GlennButler
New member
- Location
- Mid-Atlantic Coastal Plain
Re: It\'s Sooo Big.....
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What if? How will I feel when a tree I convinced them to save hurts or kills someone they love? tough one.
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Mark, I agree and I think this is why we have to choose our words carefully when discussing tree risk. We shouldn't necessarily attempt to "convince" them to skip the saw and save the tree. Perhaps we should attempt to highlight the importance and benefits of trees while simultaneously communicating the low risk that most (or individual) trees pose. We need to stress the benefits. Unfortunately many customers have already made their decision before we ever speak with them. This is why we should, as an industry, spend resources on educating the public at large. Hopefully property owners will "convince" themselves and take full credit for making an ecologically sound decision.
If property owners don't understand the real and tangible benefits of trees, how can we expect anything less than the eventual loss and degradation of our urban trees/forest?
In my opinion one of the most fruitful actions (pun intended) we can take is to emphasize the importance and grandeur of trees to children. Hopefully they'll grow up and hire tree care companies in lieu of tree removal companies.
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What if? How will I feel when a tree I convinced them to save hurts or kills someone they love? tough one.
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Mark, I agree and I think this is why we have to choose our words carefully when discussing tree risk. We shouldn't necessarily attempt to "convince" them to skip the saw and save the tree. Perhaps we should attempt to highlight the importance and benefits of trees while simultaneously communicating the low risk that most (or individual) trees pose. We need to stress the benefits. Unfortunately many customers have already made their decision before we ever speak with them. This is why we should, as an industry, spend resources on educating the public at large. Hopefully property owners will "convince" themselves and take full credit for making an ecologically sound decision.
If property owners don't understand the real and tangible benefits of trees, how can we expect anything less than the eventual loss and degradation of our urban trees/forest?
In my opinion one of the most fruitful actions (pun intended) we can take is to emphasize the importance and grandeur of trees to children. Hopefully they'll grow up and hire tree care companies in lieu of tree removal companies.
Re: It\'s Sooo Big.....
I'm amazed at the difficulty some clients have with responding to alternatives after their mind has been made up based on non-arborcentric perspectives.
I was walking around a home this morning with a client. The home is surrounded by beautiful, old White and Red Oak. He is convinced that completely removing some of the lower limbs that arch over the roof will greatly impact the amount of debris that will fall onto the shingles. He did say he was trusting my opinion due to my knowledge, though nothing I said swayed him from what he hoped I would do.
In the end, I found a way to rationalize with him and he was pleased with the outcome. We thined the growth on the arching limbs by <30%, rather than large removal cuts, maintaining the viability of the branches.
I suppose I could have walked away, but that would leave the tree to be butchered by someone else, so I chose to take on the work. It suprised me, but as I was packing up the gear, he said, "Well, I know it may still be messy, but at least we tried to do something about it." I was almost floored by his comment, but I didn't show it. After all that information I parted with, I hope something actually stuck in his mind.
Education to the masses could be quite a challenge, but well worth the effort on anyone's part if we can really start saving more trees.
I'm amazed at the difficulty some clients have with responding to alternatives after their mind has been made up based on non-arborcentric perspectives.
I was walking around a home this morning with a client. The home is surrounded by beautiful, old White and Red Oak. He is convinced that completely removing some of the lower limbs that arch over the roof will greatly impact the amount of debris that will fall onto the shingles. He did say he was trusting my opinion due to my knowledge, though nothing I said swayed him from what he hoped I would do.
In the end, I found a way to rationalize with him and he was pleased with the outcome. We thined the growth on the arching limbs by <30%, rather than large removal cuts, maintaining the viability of the branches.
I suppose I could have walked away, but that would leave the tree to be butchered by someone else, so I chose to take on the work. It suprised me, but as I was packing up the gear, he said, "Well, I know it may still be messy, but at least we tried to do something about it." I was almost floored by his comment, but I didn't show it. After all that information I parted with, I hope something actually stuck in his mind.
Education to the masses could be quite a challenge, but well worth the effort on anyone's part if we can really start saving more trees.
Jeff_Cochran
New member
- Location
- Memphis TN
Re: It\'s Sooo Big.....
those are the limbs you want thick to catch the dropping dead and slow it before it hits the roof.
those are the limbs you want thick to catch the dropping dead and slow it before it hits the roof.
