helmet cam, climbing a big dead tree FUN FUN FUN

Treecutter22

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Whew.....
This took a long time to put together.

So here it is for all of yalls viewing pleasure.

Now you can show the wife exactly what it is like from your perspective!

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Mark
THE 1-800-Tree-Expert
 
Nice work, though that was a bit of a stretch calling that pecker pole a "big' tree, non??

What's with all the frayed nicks in your flip line? ouch...

When I finally get around to getting a real video camera, a helmet cam will be an immediate acquisition!! Gotta love the perspective. Great for skiing and other sports as well.

Onr more nitpick......wrap that thumb around the top handlebar......and maybe hit the chain brake a time or two....
 

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Re: helmet cam, climbing a big dead tree FUN FUN F

Nice job Mark, great video work!
My set up might have been a little different but what ever works.
I talk to myself a little more than you do.
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Good stuff Mark.

Don't like those dead ones either, if I did it, the audio would hafe to be edited out.

Was it punky at all, or was it still pretty solid?

WP
 
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Good job Mark, Ilike the way you made the top "slip off"! A few concerns i have (might help you someday) : wrap the thumb, use the chain brake when moving the saw from face cut to back cut (this will save nicks in your flipline), and tie in with an adjustable friction saver device!!! (this way a rescue could easily be performed!!! It would be nearly impossible to lower you when all you're on is a wirecore flipline! I use a prussik instead of a cam so it could be cut out in an emergency, then you could be lowered on the climbing line w/friction device!) All in all you looked skilled and comfortable in the tree!
 
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I agree with mike on the friction saver and the prussick. Although the cam would be more difficult for a rescue I wouldnt plan on cutting the prussick out to lower. I would use it to aid in a controlled decent.It would be quicker and safer than setting up a belay from the ground and more controlled.This is seen over and over in the comps.
 
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So elaborate some on this prusic idea. Down south it is virtually 100% flip line only. 95-98% of the trees are "pole" type.
I feel SUPER uncomfortable cutting without a metal cable.

I have always believed in it.

Are you saying to "pre-tie" into a friction saver wraped around the tree? (similar to how chunks would be bloced down)
If so, how do you move fast and efeciently with our having to re-setup on every cut?
 
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By the way, why dont some other folks post a helmut cam of "PERFECT" tree work. AND NO EDITS!!!!
betcha you cant!!!
Or if you could we would need to wait a few years for the intenet speeds to catchup, because for you to do PERFECT tree work with no edits you video would be way LONG!!!!

(waiting for all your rigging, knotting and such)

But honestly, I really want to see someone post somthing here that is 100% perfect.

Mark
THE 1-800-Tree-Expert
 
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Hey Allmark, What's up bud? When i was talking about cutting the prussik, that would only be if the trunk split (or "barber chaired") and the expanding trunk would be squeezing the flip & belt into you! with no soft link/prussik you couldn't cut out w/handsaw!!! Hey 1800treeexpert NOBODY is perfect! I honestly wasn't trying to bash or anything but just point out some things to reduce job hazards. About the extra time it takes to add greater safety: what's a life worth? ,the friction saver with prussik and climbing line would only add seconds to that job! Have you ever been to the ITCC? There you'll see guys fly through trees with near perfect safety! I appreciate your posts and vids. Don't take concerns and questions as any kind of insults. I'll try to get somebody to do some more video sometime! Take care!
 
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I reckon that saw needs tuning and you should buy a new flip line.
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Otherwise, good on ya and worth watching.
 
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Great job Mark.

Those helmet cameras rock! What cam was that?

Thanks,

Dan
 
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Mark,
First of all thanks for posting that vid. A tree like that is no fun for anyone. Especially when the bark is just flaking off like that. I've changed my game plan when encountering huge cavities or seriously punky, rotten wood.
I actually got "that feeling" many of us encounter when in those situations while watching. Thanks also for being brutally honest about your "nervousness" and verbalizing your reasons for the type of face cut you made.
Secondly, I seriously doubt that anyone who has responded to your vid was in any way trying to maliciously criticize you. These guys and gals are in the habit of offering constructive criticism for the betterment of our industry.
I've gained tons of valuable info from this forum. You said in the South, whereabouts? Keep those cool vids coming! :)
 
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You are definately doing good work. I wasnt bashing either. From what I see I would work with you any day. We all do imperfect work me included.I always strive to better myself too! Keep those vids coming.
Mike I thought you meant for AR. Thanks :)
 
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Looking for a little input or opinions on this video.

This is not meant to degrade anyone, I'm sure we have all been in a similliar situation before, I know I have.

The tie in position is quite far away and in the event you become detached from the tree that is being removed, there is going to be a huge swing, that could be quite dangerous in itself. In this particulat video, the largest structural weakness appears to be at the base, which is also on the backside of the lean. In the event of the tree failing at the base, you will either be dragged down with the tree, have a safety device break and either fall or swing, or be up there supporting the whole tree between your climbingg rope and lanyard etc.

Is there anyway of dealing with these dangers, with the exception of bucket truck, drop, etc., or does it come down to a judgement call, and hope for the best? I'm pretty up front with people now that either I won't do it, or explain to them that I'll climb as high as I feel safe, and that a tree might get damaged.

WP
 
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WP,
If I would have had my druthers, I would have choose a tree that was closer. there is no doubt about this.

Also, one thing that is important to mention. after I sold the job, I descided that when I went back that this tree was going to have to pass the "test".

while i didnt want to lose the money, if I would have kicked into that tree and gotten nothing but mush, it would have failed and I would have walked away oro crushed his other tree by falling it all at once.

It is funny on trees like these.

They tend to GROW after I sell them and before I do them.

I loose sleep sometime thinking about the scary ones.

Take care

Mark
THE 1-800-Tree-Expert
 
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Mark, in your mind's eye, what is the scenario that woulda played out if the tree woulda failed at the base while you were in the top?
How would you have seperated yourself from the tree?
What do you think the outcome woulda been after taking a swing of that magnitude?

I don't think I woulda climbed that tree based upon my being tied into that other tree. I do believe you put yourself in an overly dangerous position, and if that's SOP with you it's gonna bite you on the butt one day.
 
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Mark, in your mind's eye, what is the scenario that woulda played out if the tree woulda failed at the base while you were in the top?
How would you have seperated yourself from the tree?
What do you think the outcome woulda been after taking a swing of that magnitude?

I don't think I woulda climbed that tree based upon my being tied into that other tree. I do believe you put yourself in an overly dangerous position, and if that's SOP with you it's gonna bite you on the butt one day.

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Excellent post and valid questions!
I think we can all agree if the tree broke it would be at the base.
It looked like he had his groundman holding the tail of his rope, I assume with a wrap on a tree or through a friction device, to reduce swing.
How would you disconnect your lanyard?
The most obvious question is why didn't you guy the tree?
The second obvious question is why not just use a bucket truck?
That was a horrible video to watch. You put yourself at way too much risk for no reason.
 
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I have set up a high line between two trees, then suspend a tie in from that. You have to have trees in line though and a lot of rope. that way you can climb the dead spar with a belay from the ground. If it fails you simply let go. It's a total beeyotch to rig though. I probably would have flopped it letting the customer know the potential damage to the other tree. No dead tree is worth spinal cord surgery or death. A whip back to that tie in would do no good.
 
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