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Because Trump told us so. During his speech on the Ellipse on J 6th Trump literally called on Pence to reject the certification of Biden's win and send the results back to the states? Soon after Pence issued a statement declaring he did not have the authority to do what Trump was asking him to do? Soon after this statement Trump fired up his angry mob claiming "this election was stolen from you, from me, from the country," and also falsely claimed the he won "in a landslide." Trump then went on to say "this is not the end, its just the begging" and stated the he "will never give up, we will never give up, we will never concede." Trump then urged his cult members to march on down to the Capitol Building claiming "if you don't fight like hell you're not going to have a country anymore".Yeah? How?
“We are staying here to liberate the city from the socialists and the burdensome leadership that this governor and that this mayor have placed on this country and what they have tried to insert into the city,” Noem said, right before Padilla interrupted.Are you describing Kristi Noem as misfit?
I'm referring to her goal of liberation in California.
Hardly. Do you believe your governor, Gavin Newsom to be an honest and effective leader?Are you describing Kristi Noem as misfit?
I'm referring to her goal of liberation in California.
Are you purposely avoiding my question or just being obtuse?Because Trump told us so. During his speech on the Ellipse on J 6th Trump literally called on Pence to reject the certification of Biden's win and send the results back to the states? Soon after Pence issued a statement declaring he did not have the authority to do what Trump was asking him to do? Soon after this statement Trump fired up his angry mob claiming "this election was stolen from you, from me, from the country," and also falsely claimed the he won "in a landslide." Trump then went on to say "this is not the end, its just the begging" and stated the he "will never give up, we will never give up, we will never concede." Trump then urged his cult members to march on down to the Capitol Building claiming "if you don't fight like hell you're not going to have a country anymore".
Are you purposely avoiding my question or just being obtuse?


Political hits. Military occupying US cities. Arresting dissenting elected officials. Assaulting high ranking officials. Welcome to Trump America. This is just the beginning folksMinnesota assassinations.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/14/democratic-lawmakers-minnesota-shot
True, we weren't having this sort of shit until he came on the scene, certainly not at the level we saw on 6th Jan 2021. But think about the size of that mob. What I mean is, we can't loose sight of the fact that Trump himself is not actually the problem. He is simply a trigger for a problem that already existed. A shamefully large chunk of this nation's population is just like him, uneducated, selfish, and bigoted. He totally resonates with them, even to the extent of outright hero worship, as a shining example of success and power, as someone like them who finally came along to represents their interests. One of the best quotes I have seen lately:Political hits. Military occupying US cities. Arresting dissenting elected officials. Assaulting high ranking officials. Welcome to Trump America. This is just the beginning folks
And amoral.A shamefully large chunk of this nation's population is just like him, uneducated, selfish, and bigoted.
I would add, extremely gullible too.And amoral.
Given Trump's ideas about 'the enemy within', he probably personally considers the assassin a 'patriot' and will quietly pardon him as soon as media attention moves on to other things. Farfetched idea? He wasn't bothered at all when his supporters made a noose and were screaming to hang Pence if they got their hands on him, smearing their feces on the walls, attacking and injuring law officers, etc. In fact his ego was eating it up, and he rewarded all these 'patriots' with pardons.Do you think Kash Patel or Dan Borgino will effectually investigate this assassination? Will Pam press for federal charges?
You quoted my post and asked me how anyone with half a brain understands that the intent that day was to stop the certification of the 2020 election. I believe I clearly and concisely answered that question using known facts and quotes from that day...
I don't know that much about him, except that he was democratically elected (I don't live there). I answered your question, even though I'm not sure what it had to do with mine. Will you answer the question I asked of you?Hardly. Do you believe your governor, Gavin Newsom to be an honest and effective leader?
Are you purposely avoiding my question or just being obtuse?
Duh. Interesting statement. You mean a recounting of the facts? Anyway, you seem to be missing the point entirely. Whether they had any real chance is not the issue. The issue is the whole big lie, the 'stop the steal' BS that resulted from Trumps huge delicate ego not being able to handle losing, with him basically fomenting the riot and gloating over it instead of showing any interest in preventing it. Same egotistical idea of a 'landslide victory', a 'mandate from the American people' that he tells himself this time, when he basically barely squeaked by Harris with only a 1.5 percent margin (and don't forget she is black woman in an extremely racist country. Trump would probably not have won if a white man, basically anyone but Biden, had run against him).Your "facts" were nothing more than a recounting of what happened that day. . .
The shooter will be pardoned if so.Do you think Kash Patel or Dan Borgino will effectually investigate this assassination? Will Pam press for federal charges?
What prior post are you referring to because I just searched through the last 10 pages and can find no post directed at me in which you ask "how was that mob going to change anything meaningful. Nothing?What I asked you, and anyone else feel free to chime in, is how was that mob going to change anything meaningful