- Location
- Home of the New Jersey Devils
I think that it always did that for me with the last version too. But when I went into the forum, the ones that I didn't view were still a different color.
Forum Updates
- Thread starter Mark Chisholm
- Start date
- Location
- Home of the New Jersey Devils
Okay, here's a poll. I was asked a while ago by a few members to get the attachments to open in a new window rather than changing the screens. And my question is who is happy with that and who is not?
- Location
- Home of the New Jersey Devils
Here's another question:
Would any of you like a forum dedicated to Utility Arboriculture? How about chainsaw maintenance and upgrades?
Would any of you like a forum dedicated to Utility Arboriculture? How about chainsaw maintenance and upgrades?
Not.
If I want a link opened in a new window, I middle-click on it. If the link is given a target attribute, then my choice and personal control have been taken from me. What's worse, if I have my browser configured to have an external application handle a (media) content type, when there's a target attribute on the link which causes a new window to open when clicked, then I get a new blank window which I must take the time to close. No thanks.
Please don't hard-code attachments to open in new windows.
Thanks,
Glen
If I want a link opened in a new window, I middle-click on it. If the link is given a target attribute, then my choice and personal control have been taken from me. What's worse, if I have my browser configured to have an external application handle a (media) content type, when there's a target attribute on the link which causes a new window to open when clicked, then I get a new blank window which I must take the time to close. No thanks.
Please don't hard-code attachments to open in new windows.
Thanks,
Glen
- Location
- georgetown ontario canada
I just hold down the shift key while clicking and it pops up in a new window. If you change it I can save all that energy I now waste hitting two keys instead of one. 
I say change it.
I say change it.
NickfromWI
Participating member
- Location
- Los Angeles, CA
Mark, about the attachments opening in a new window.....AWESOME! I can't tell you how many times I would open an attachment, look at it, then close it out, only to find out I had closed out the window I needed to view treebuzz. This is a worthy improvement.
love
nick
I like all the smilies, too!
love
nick
I like all the smilies, too!
- Location
- Ontario, Canada
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Here's another question:
Would any of you like a forum dedicated to Utility Arboriculture? How about chainsaw maintenance and upgrades?
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YA/forum/images/graemlins/applaudit.gifYA some HARDCORE LINE CLEARANCE.
Enough with the pussy foot'n through the tree tops eh?
Here's another question:
Would any of you like a forum dedicated to Utility Arboriculture? How about chainsaw maintenance and upgrades?
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YA/forum/images/graemlins/applaudit.gifYA some HARDCORE LINE CLEARANCE.
Enough with the pussy foot'n through the tree tops eh?
Attachments
Here's a tip Nick. Instead of closing the window, try the browser's "Back" button first. Another tip is to not expand the browser window to take up the full screen, which in the most basic way hides indication from you whether it is or isn't the primary browser window. Doing so may make sense on a 13" monitor running 640x480; otherwise I don't understand it.
Glen
Glen
- Location
- Home of the New Jersey Devils
Alright, while we're waiting for the results of the new forum questions, I have a new one. What do you all think of the color scheme here? Is it woeking well, easy to read? Or should we change the tones or colors? /forum/images/graemlins/icon13.gif /forum/images/graemlins/icon14.gif
TreeCo
Carpal tunnel level member
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Here's another question:
Would any of you like a forum dedicated to Utility Arboriculture? How about chainsaw maintenance and upgrades?
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Yes to both.
Here's another question:
Would any of you like a forum dedicated to Utility Arboriculture? How about chainsaw maintenance and upgrades?
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Yes to both.
TreeCo
Carpal tunnel level member
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Mark, about the attachments opening in a new window.....AWESOME! I can't tell you how many times I would open an attachment, look at it, then close it out, only to find out I had closed out the window I needed to view treebuzz. This is a worthy improvement.
love
nick
I like all the smilies, too!
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Ditto here.
Dan
Mark, about the attachments opening in a new window.....AWESOME! I can't tell you how many times I would open an attachment, look at it, then close it out, only to find out I had closed out the window I needed to view treebuzz. This is a worthy improvement.
love
nick
I like all the smilies, too!
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Ditto here.
Dan
Mark,
I like the attachments openning in a seperate window for the same reasons Nick mentioned.
I would read a chainsaw forum.
As for the colors, I changed the skin color by going to "personal preferences" in "my home".
Now after reading through this thread completely, I'm going to use one of my favorite features from the old and new board. That is the "ignore list".
Eric
I like the attachments openning in a seperate window for the same reasons Nick mentioned.
I would read a chainsaw forum.
As for the colors, I changed the skin color by going to "personal preferences" in "my home".
Now after reading through this thread completely, I'm going to use one of my favorite features from the old and new board. That is the "ignore list".
Eric
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I like the attachments openning in a seperate window for the same reasons Nick mentioned.
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The "Back" button will be grayed out on a new window but will have color on a window which has history. If you're viewing an image in a window with history you shouldn't close it. Pretty simple.
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Now after reading through this thread completely, I'm going to use one of my favorite features from the old and new board. That is the "ignore list".
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Nice. Mark asked for input and I can only take your remark to be regarding the only person who's not merely slapped him on the back, but has offered concrete input. Web site administration is not rocket science, but its becoming painfully evident around the Web that its not computer science either.
Mark, if your guy(s) cannot perform the fixes I pointed out, let me know. I can.
Glen
I like the attachments openning in a seperate window for the same reasons Nick mentioned.
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The "Back" button will be grayed out on a new window but will have color on a window which has history. If you're viewing an image in a window with history you shouldn't close it. Pretty simple.
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Now after reading through this thread completely, I'm going to use one of my favorite features from the old and new board. That is the "ignore list".
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Nice. Mark asked for input and I can only take your remark to be regarding the only person who's not merely slapped him on the back, but has offered concrete input. Web site administration is not rocket science, but its becoming painfully evident around the Web that its not computer science either.
Mark, if your guy(s) cannot perform the fixes I pointed out, let me know. I can.
Glen
- Location
- Austin, TX
/forum/images/graemlins/bling.gif Nice graemlins!!
- Location
- Home of the New Jersey Devils
What skin did you prefer Eric?
Glens:
Please understand that everything you have a problem with is by no means something I will fix. I did not write this software, and you seem to be one of the few people in the world who visits websites with the browsers CSS turned off.
The problem you are experiencing with the trees loosing their leaves when you look at a forum is not a problem at all - all that is telling you is that there are no new posts SINCE you've last clicked on it. There can still be new posts you haven't read, but none have been made since.
In regards to the attachment windows: I have always been an MSIE person, and have adopted Shift+Clicking to get links to open in a new window. Your option of middle-clicking is once again, something so few people would/do use, it simply isn't a possibility for us. The majority of users seem to be MSIE/Mozilla users, and do not seem to use Tabbed-window browsers, like I'm almost positive you use. Hard coding the target=_blank is the easiest way to make the most people happy. If you feel this should be a user option, send an email to Infopop's support team asking for something in User Preferences which references to a variable linked to displaying attachments.
Thank you for your criticisms, as unconstructive as they may have been.
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Please understand that everything you have a problem with is by no means something I will fix. I did not write this software, and you seem to be one of the few people in the world who visits websites with the browsers CSS turned off.
The problem you are experiencing with the trees loosing their leaves when you look at a forum is not a problem at all - all that is telling you is that there are no new posts SINCE you've last clicked on it. There can still be new posts you haven't read, but none have been made since.
In regards to the attachment windows: I have always been an MSIE person, and have adopted Shift+Clicking to get links to open in a new window. Your option of middle-clicking is once again, something so few people would/do use, it simply isn't a possibility for us. The majority of users seem to be MSIE/Mozilla users, and do not seem to use Tabbed-window browsers, like I'm almost positive you use. Hard coding the target=_blank is the easiest way to make the most people happy. If you feel this should be a user option, send an email to Infopop's support team asking for something in User Preferences which references to a variable linked to displaying attachments.
Thank you for your criticisms, as unconstructive as they may have been.
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seanlarkin
Participating member
- Location
- Greensboro, NC
The flash at the top of the page seems a bit much. I like the idea, but it reloads on every page and is going to kill your bandwidth. It makes each page take longer to load.
-Sean
-Sean
- Location
- Home of the New Jersey Devils
You are right Sean. We wanted to try it to see if the rest of the page loaded first, but it doesn't seem to do that. We will make ammendments ASAP. :9lame:
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Glens:
Please understand that everything you have a problem with is by no means something I will fix. I did not write this software, and you seem to be one of the few people in the world who visits websites with the browsers CSS turned off.
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The way that first sentence reads is that you intend to address none of the items. I'll hope for the best and assume that you'd meant you'll address some of them, but not all.
You have a "New" image (http://www.treebuzz.com/forum/images/new.gif
) appear within a new post. What would be so difficult about adding it to the index of posts within each of the forums? That would "solve" the "problem" of no indication of which threads have new posts for those who eschew "styles".
I did not accuse you of writing the software, but I /was/ under the assumption you were configuring it.
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The problem you are experiencing with the trees loosing their leaves when you look at a forum is not a problem at all - all that is telling you is that there are no new posts SINCE you've last clicked on it. There can still be new posts you haven't read, but none have been made since.
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The condition of the tree then indicates a somewhat different condition than the forums index page legend suggests. Thanks for clearing that up. Though I don't recall saying it was a problem for me; merely that it doesn't work correctly. I'm fairly certain it did so in the previous iteration of this site. (Oftentimes when a site is undergoing an upgrade, the new setup is run concurrently with the old so that a smooth transition can be made. If that had been done here, we could easily have our questions of "how did this work before?" answered.)
There is a minor discrepancy then in the meaning of the words "new posts" in the legends for the forums index page and the thread index page within a forum. I (now) understand the "new post" indication is maintained for individual threads which remain unread since a previous visit, yet such indication is not maintained for the forums which contain them.
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In regards to the attachment windows: I have always been an MSIE person, and have adopted Shift+Clicking to get links to open in a new window. Your option of middle-clicking is once again, something so few people would/do use, it simply isn't a possibility for us. The majority of users seem to be MSIE/Mozilla users, and do not seem to use Tabbed-window browsers, like I'm almost positive you use. Hard coding the notarget is the easiest way to make the most people happy. If you feel this should be a user option, send an email to Infopop's support team asking for something in User Preferences which references to a variable linked to displaying attachments.
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I have never been an MSIE user and am only familiar with shift+click initiating a "save link to disk" activity; but I did not suggest that control operation (in either of the expected results). Middle-clicking has been "open link in a new window" since at least NS v2 (for unix) that I'm aware of; and that function has been incorporated in the 2nd generation Mozilla stuff across all platforms (try clicking the middle button [the scroll wheel] on a link in your Windows build of Mozilla-based stuff). We all (excluding Apple) can right-click and opt to open a link in a new window, though, correct? I do on rare occasion use a tabbed-window browser but do so as little as possible; I'm not fond of multiple uses for a window, nor any window obscuring the entire screen.
Hardcoding "notarget", if it's something you're doing manually to the templates, will effect no change from the current behavior and I recommend you save yourself the effort.
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Thank you for your criticisms, as unconstructive as they may have been.
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My "criticisms" have all been precisely to the point of the original request and have been totally constructive. Being unconstructive would be saying "the way it is now sucks" while offering no fixes. What I've done is to say some minor aspects which affect major functionality need these specific things done; then offered possibilities.
Oh; please don't forget to add the " wrap="soft" " attribute to the TEXTAREA elements in the templates for newreply.php and modifypost.php while you're fine-tuning the configuration. See the template for addpost.php for a reference of what you want to do.
If you, as the customer, want to pass any of these suggestions on to the makers of the software you have my blessing. Even if I were to do it directly, it would have no effect on this board until you'd upgraded again in the future, right? Where I come from we make necessary changes ourselves and then inform others upstream if we feel it necessary.
Thanks,
Glen
Glens:
Please understand that everything you have a problem with is by no means something I will fix. I did not write this software, and you seem to be one of the few people in the world who visits websites with the browsers CSS turned off.
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The way that first sentence reads is that you intend to address none of the items. I'll hope for the best and assume that you'd meant you'll address some of them, but not all.
You have a "New" image (http://www.treebuzz.com/forum/images/new.gif
I did not accuse you of writing the software, but I /was/ under the assumption you were configuring it.
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The problem you are experiencing with the trees loosing their leaves when you look at a forum is not a problem at all - all that is telling you is that there are no new posts SINCE you've last clicked on it. There can still be new posts you haven't read, but none have been made since.
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The condition of the tree then indicates a somewhat different condition than the forums index page legend suggests. Thanks for clearing that up. Though I don't recall saying it was a problem for me; merely that it doesn't work correctly. I'm fairly certain it did so in the previous iteration of this site. (Oftentimes when a site is undergoing an upgrade, the new setup is run concurrently with the old so that a smooth transition can be made. If that had been done here, we could easily have our questions of "how did this work before?" answered.)
There is a minor discrepancy then in the meaning of the words "new posts" in the legends for the forums index page and the thread index page within a forum. I (now) understand the "new post" indication is maintained for individual threads which remain unread since a previous visit, yet such indication is not maintained for the forums which contain them.
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In regards to the attachment windows: I have always been an MSIE person, and have adopted Shift+Clicking to get links to open in a new window. Your option of middle-clicking is once again, something so few people would/do use, it simply isn't a possibility for us. The majority of users seem to be MSIE/Mozilla users, and do not seem to use Tabbed-window browsers, like I'm almost positive you use. Hard coding the notarget is the easiest way to make the most people happy. If you feel this should be a user option, send an email to Infopop's support team asking for something in User Preferences which references to a variable linked to displaying attachments.
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I have never been an MSIE user and am only familiar with shift+click initiating a "save link to disk" activity; but I did not suggest that control operation (in either of the expected results). Middle-clicking has been "open link in a new window" since at least NS v2 (for unix) that I'm aware of; and that function has been incorporated in the 2nd generation Mozilla stuff across all platforms (try clicking the middle button [the scroll wheel] on a link in your Windows build of Mozilla-based stuff). We all (excluding Apple) can right-click and opt to open a link in a new window, though, correct? I do on rare occasion use a tabbed-window browser but do so as little as possible; I'm not fond of multiple uses for a window, nor any window obscuring the entire screen.
Hardcoding "notarget", if it's something you're doing manually to the templates, will effect no change from the current behavior and I recommend you save yourself the effort.
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Thank you for your criticisms, as unconstructive as they may have been.
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My "criticisms" have all been precisely to the point of the original request and have been totally constructive. Being unconstructive would be saying "the way it is now sucks" while offering no fixes. What I've done is to say some minor aspects which affect major functionality need these specific things done; then offered possibilities.
Oh; please don't forget to add the " wrap="soft" " attribute to the TEXTAREA elements in the templates for newreply.php and modifypost.php while you're fine-tuning the configuration. See the template for addpost.php for a reference of what you want to do.
If you, as the customer, want to pass any of these suggestions on to the makers of the software you have my blessing. Even if I were to do it directly, it would have no effect on this board until you'd upgraded again in the future, right? Where I come from we make necessary changes ourselves and then inform others upstream if we feel it necessary.
Thanks,
Glen
Mark:
The colors and banner are in, and tomorrow the ads will show up. We already have the template installed, it's just a matter of making the changes and adding the ads.
Also, I changed /forum/images/graemlins/9lame.gif from 9lame to lame, try that Mark
We can change the header from flash to an image if you want to, just tell us what image you want in an email.
I'm going home now - later all!
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The colors and banner are in, and tomorrow the ads will show up. We already have the template installed, it's just a matter of making the changes and adding the ads.
Also, I changed /forum/images/graemlins/9lame.gif from 9lame to lame, try that Mark
We can change the header from flash to an image if you want to, just tell us what image you want in an email.
I'm going home now - later all!
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