False Claims of being a CA

TB, the RI license is just that, a license. The card certifies that you are licensed. The ISA certification is a voluntary credential that requires CEU's. So there is a difference, and it's not just semantics. The CEU's are not difficult to get, and to be honest, the CA's that I know view this as a part of being certified, more of a personal responsibility than a burden.

You can also be a member of either NECISA (New England Chapter) or ISA (International) without being a CA. It's too bad that some CA's tarnish the credential, but that's gonna happen. Illegitimi non carborundum hahaha!

Keep an eye on the NECISA website, we're going to have some great workshops this year, and they are not necessarily just for members... Maybe we can change your mind!

-Tom
 
This is why I love the buzz, there are some really decent folk on here that are full of encouragement, and very helpful in helping others grow in a field that can be filled with so many passionate people. Thumbs up.
 
Lol, this thread is actually just about Daniel Murphy saying that he is a certified arborist.

The ISA will be notified about his website, hopefully they will set the doofus straight.

SZ
 
do folks think its more important to cover employess with workers comp or be certified

only mention cuz large number of empoyers here who are cert'd dont cover empoyees with comp.....personally I feel the ISA should require this of employers using ISA logos

no bullshat ghost policies either......
food for thought


carry on
 
This thread really cracks me up!

Next you'll be behind the bushes documenting the undocumented so you can feel better about yourselves when they're hauled off in handcuffs right?

Let your own abilities and professionalism sell your work for you, rather than your greed for market share, at the expense of those less talented or professional than you.

Buncha high falutin wankers pickin on dummies in pickups tryin to feed their families is what I'm readin here.

Funny, but sad. You guys seriously need to take a chill pill so you can enjoy the world and people around you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_insxlS5jU

jomoco
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Buncha high falutin wankers pickin on dummies in pickups tryin to feed their families is what I'm readin here.

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So what you are saying is that it is OK for them to steal from my plate while I'm trying to feed my family by playing by the rules.

Stealing is just plain wrong, no matter the reason.
 
CA is simply commonly used as an abbreviation for I.S.A.-Certified Arborist independent if any other certifying body overseeing their credential.
 
In BC, most, if not all, of the vegeatation inspectors that work for BC Hydro are ISA arborists, most of them have never cut a branch and simply gained the ISA cert as a means to an end.
They are terrible to work with, as most feel their ISA certification gives them knowledge that it doesnt. Basically you end up having to work for morons who 'knows' more about trees than someone who has done the work for a very long time.
So the whole ISA arborist doesnt really earn you any grass, or should I say respect up here, its looked upon as a credential that can be essentially bought.

Maybe if you had to actually work with trees to become an arborist it would be different, but no you just need to read about them for a week or two and bingo.
Perhaps there should be differening levels of certification so these yahoos who have never actualy worked with a tree would be noted as an arbo who has actually never worked with trees. Lol ya right.
 
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Don't you also need three years experience?

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Theoretically. But what does three years experience mean? It is just an arbitrary somewhat meaningless benchmark prerequisite anyway. My recently departed (quit) groundie couldn't tie knots, climb, coil rope, identify trees, or show any interest in learning anything after almost four years. Good at lugging brush uphill though....
 
One of the nice things about ISA Certification is that it establishes a minimum level for competence. That, at least, has value. You know that a competent ISA Certified Arborist adheres to certain professional standards of conduct, but also certain scientific standards for arboriculture. Many guys who are not CA's are already way beyond that no doubt, but this provides a basis for people who may otherwise have no way to acquire this knowledge all alone in their holler.
 
and some CA's seem to be ignorant of all the information they ever read/learned and have basically no professional standards of conduct. Baselines are great if people follow them. (This is the biggest complaint of mine where I work)
 
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Don't you also need three years experience?

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Theoretically. But what does three years experience mean? It is just an arbitrary somewhat meaningless benchmark prerequisite anyway. My recently departed (quit) groundie couldn't tie knots, climb, coil rope, identify trees, or show any interest in learning anything after almost four years. Good at lugging brush uphill though....

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There's a landscape architect in Oregon, who I think used "related" experience to apply to sit for the exam.

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Each chapter has a Certification Liazon to the Cert Board. Take your gripes to them, that is what they are there for. If they don't know your issues then nothing will be done. I agree with many of the issues aired here, there some people who just passed a test and that is all. Personally I feel it is my duty to continue to be the very best I can be which means staying on top of anything coming down the pipeline. I just took the TRAQ and it was on my dime, not my employers. When my boss offered to help pay for it I said no thanks, the City (that we work for) didn't offer to pay for your college education did they?

Thanks EZ for stirring this pot again.
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