#enough

I would call the FBI on this guy...about as close to a school shooter psycho as anyone out there in Bannonland.
Hsell? I sure as hell hope you don't possess any firearms. I'm deadly serious.
 
Yeah, evil bastards are conspiring to ban assault weapons, again. Next thing you know, they'll conspire to take away our constitutional right to own nuclear ICBMs and toxic nerve gas. Bastards.
 
Deadliest school shooting in US history was Virginia Tech. Did it with 2 pistols.

Those get banned too? Seriously. If not, why not?
 
JD3000 said:
How bout the gun laws and culture in Europe (I think Colb was alluding to...)?

Thoughts?
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We have pretty strict regulations, own a lot of guns nevertheless, but use them mostly for hunting, not so much for children, we found the breaking wheel to be a more effective teaching instrument.
Until a few years ago, the police didn't wear guns. Then there was a right wing nut who killed and shot 77 people (many of them children), and after that some other right wing nuts are declaring 'heightened threat level' every now and again so as to let the p keep their 'temporary' armament. The p are shooting themselves in the feet and all sorts of other accidents are bound to happen; it would be very easy for a crook to steal a p gun for example.

Civilian guns here are hidden away in secure lockers, separate from the ammunition.
Norwegians are known for not holding their liquor (but they don't let the fact impede their drinking habit) - I'm really glad they don't generally carry firearms. A drunk with a gun is much more dangerous than one with a knife for example, even if the intent might be the same.

In order to own a gun you have to have a legitimate use for it, such as hunting (have to take a course) or sports (have to be a member in a shooting club to own a pistol for instance, since pistols don't have any legitimate uses other than target shooting).

Some statistics:
U.S. citizens own one gun per capita, we own 1/4 gun per capita.
World ranking, the U.S. are no. 1 in how many guns they have per capita, we're no. 11.
About ten times as many per capita are murdered in the U.S.A. as here.

There seems to be a difference in gun culture as well, and significantly we have some sort of welfare and human rights system in place, that may be helping too. Also we don't have death penalty. Nice for the state to set the example that one should not respond to an atrocity with another atrocity.
 
Marsupilaami said:
We have pretty strict regulations, own a lot of guns nevertheless, but use them mostly for hunting, not so much for children, we found the breaking wheel to be a more effective teaching instrument.
Until a few years ago, the police didn't wear guns. Then there was a right wing nut who killed and shot 77 people (many of them children), and after that some other right wing nuts are declaring 'heightened threat level' every now and again so as to let the p keep their 'temporary' armament. The p are shooting themselves in the feet and all sorts of other accidents are bound to happen; it would be very easy for a crook to steal a p gun for example.

Civilian guns here are hidden away in secure lockers, separate from the ammunition.
Norwegians are known for not holding their liquor (but they don't let the fact impede their drinking habit) - I'm really glad they don't generally carry firearms. A drunk with a gun is much more dangerous than one with a knife for example, even if the intent might be the same.

In order to own a gun you have to have a legitimate use for it, such as hunting (have to take a course) or sports (have to be a member in a shooting club to own a pistol for instance, since pistols don't have any legitimate uses other than target shooting).

Some statistics:
U.S. citizens own one gun per capita, we own 1/4 gun per capita.
World ranking, the U.S. are no. 1 in how many guns they have per capita, we're no. 11.
About ten times as many per capita are murdered in the U.S.A. as here.

There seems to be a difference in gun culture as well, and significantly we have some sort of welfare and human rights system in place, that may be helping too. Also we don't have death penalty. Nice for the state to set the example that one should not respond to an atrocity with another atrocity.
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Thanks. I was looking for reasonable responses and potential solutions, appreciated.
 
oakwilt said:
I would call the FBI on this guy...about as close to a school shooter psycho as anyone out there in Bannonland.
Hsell? I sure as hell hope you don't possess any firearms. I'm deadly serious.
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Why?

Because I disagree with you?

You’re pretty good at role reversals:especially considering I’ve not threatened anyone, but you certainly have.
 
Marsupilaami said:
We have pretty strict regulations, own a lot of guns nevertheless, but use them mostly for hunting, not so much for children, we found the breaking wheel to be a more effective teaching instrument.
Until a few years ago, the police didn't wear guns. Then there was a right wing nut who killed and shot 77 people (many of them children), and after that some other right wing nuts are declaring 'heightened threat level' every now and again so as to let the p keep their 'temporary' armament. The p are shooting themselves in the feet and all sorts of other accidents are bound to happen; it would be very easy for a crook to steal a p gun for example.

Civilian guns here are hidden away in secure lockers, separate from the ammunition.
Norwegians are known for not holding their liquor (but they don't let the fact impede their drinking habit) - I'm really glad they don't generally carry firearms. A drunk with a gun is much more dangerous than one with a knife for example, even if the intent might be the same.

In order to own a gun you have to have a legitimate use for it, such as hunting (have to take a course) or sports (have to be a member in a shooting club to own a pistol for instance, since pistols don't have any legitimate uses other than target shooting).

Some statistics:
U.S. citizens own one gun per capita, we own 1/4 gun per capita.
World ranking, the U.S. are no. 1 in how many guns they have per capita, we're no. 11.
About ten times as many per capita are murdered in the U.S.A. as here.

There seems to be a difference in gun culture as well, and significantly we have some sort of welfare and human rights system in place, that may be helping too. Also we don't have death penalty. Nice for the state to set the example that one should not respond to an atrocity with another atrocity.
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What’s the population of Norway?
 
What an idiot. Like trump, their 'fearless' leader, the end is imminent.

When the words of a porn star are far more believable than this GOP clown polluting the White House, America stands a chance to a future.

I have 3 town halls to attend today. The teachers statewide are walking off and all the state employees are debating following suit. Have bridges to build, enemies to target. I wonder if emotional breakdowns, like hsell's currently, is all the right can muster?

#enough
 
oakwilt said:
When the words of a porn star are far more believable than this GOP clown polluting the White House....
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I don't know anyone who doubts her. Of course it happened. But like I said, at least it was consensual.

(BTW- did you believe Linda Tripp, Paula Jones et al? I'm certain you did, since you're so woke. Even Hillary said all victims of sexual assault deserve to be believed. LO freaking L. What an evil crone.)
 
So why did you vote for the lying fat fuck?
"He knows how to run a business" is why.
Take your lying rightwing bullshit to Moscow, where demagoguery is enforced by murder.
 
Bucknut said:
Just keeping it real:

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Not knocking anyone or saying this diminishes the message. But if y'all call BS on Trump's crowd size then this seems fair. Nationwide crowd estimated at 1.1 million. Not too shabby.

Rico, here's the root of our frustration:
I am 100% certain that if every possible gun control measure you want to enact is enacted there will still be more school shootings. And not necessarily fewer. Do you doubt this?

So then what? Do you shrug shoulders and say, "Well dang, we tried but there's nothing more we can do"? Of course not. You'll want more. And more. Until it finally (maybe) sinks in that the problem is mental, societal, cultural, familial.

I guess I'm tired of arguing about which useless and oversimplified "solution" to throw at a tremendously complex problem.

Bottom line: ANY "gun control" short of total confiscation is doomed to failure. Psychos will ALWAYS have access to guns. Either abolish the 2A or don't. Stop pretending to accommodate gun owners. Please. :D
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I believe the estimate for the demonstrations this week end was 500,000-800,000 nation wide.

Less than a 1/3 of Americans own guns
3% of Americans own half the gun (133,ooo,ooo) in America
Roughly 2/3’s of Americans support stronger gun control.

It’s time for the majority to stop being lead by the minority. Changes is coming. It’s inevitable. We have tried your way and it hasn’t worked. The plain fact is that our current policies and path concerning guns has been a disaster, and a national disgrace. It might be time for us to put our ego’s and addiction to guns aside, and learn from the rest of the world.
 
oakwilt said:
So why did you vote for the lying fat fuck?
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Dude I didn't. I voted for Trump.
(Buh dum ch)

Levi.CO said:
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/r...retired-supreme-court-justice-says-2018-03-27
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Thank you! FINALLY! A little honesty.
If you can repeal the 2A, fine. That's a legit solution. I couldn't argue that.

I love this helpful cue from the writer : "Justice John Paul Stevens says repealing second amendment would allow for more gun control".

No shit? You don't say! Took a Northwestern law degree for that.
 
Dude.

The kids have tipped the scales for change. It's fucking growing and it's in response to..and because of you and yours. It's history being written and the dam has burst.

You babble about the 2nd. Pistols vs what the fuck. It's irrelevant and not even applicable. The direction of the exploding social response to all the extremist right wing bullshit is directly at you and yours. If you were halfway intelligent, you'd prepare like you're saying or find positive in what's inevitable. Your choice. Open your Damn cult-ed brain or suffer the hate and fear you live in.
 
I babble about the 2nd? Sorry, thought we were talking about guns here.

Besides, I really don't babble. But I know someone who does...... We're on page 11 of this thread now, which pretty much makes us all vegetarians as we've choked down so many of your "word salad" posts.

All emotion. Zero reason or analysis of facts. You know- the usual.
 
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Levi.CO said:
I've said that from the beginning, I've no bones about it, repeal the 2nd tomorrow, fine by me.
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Fine by me too. Gonna be tough sledding, but at least it would be honest, democratic and unassailably Constitutional.

You wanna bet anti-gunners will never go that route? It's way too hard. Requires convincing neighbors of the correctness of your position. Requires work, in other words.

Nah, they'll try an end-around as they always do in Constitutional matters. They'll pass a flagrantly unconstitutional gun control bill and hope it goes to the Supreme Court when someone inevitably sues. Then they just have to convince one Justice, not the middle third of the country.
 
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Question: since Justice Stevens advocates repeal of the 2nd, isn't that a tacit admission that lesser gun control legislation is unconstitutional?

If not, why wouldn't he just support whatever gun measures David Hogg and company want?

I expect the repeal movement to gather steam. I welcome the debate.
 
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