DRT

I remember that french video or at least one like it, proof to me if you get use to any techniques you can become proficient at it..Two foot ascenders would probably make things a little easier , compared to footlocking both tails when they had that wide spread between them.
 
CutHighnLetFly said:
ive messed around DSRT and ill be honest i had a hard time planning out what i was doing, i think i was like over thinking things. plus im still early in the SRT game.

ive been doing a lot more pruning the ever, which requires a different approach moving thru the canopy, rather than get to where i have to tie or cut something to take the biggest piece i can that makes sense.

i found that, for me, whats been the easiest way to get around quick (for me) and safe is to have a main climbing line to my bone running SRT, and have a seperate Ddrt system. when i get my next rope im going to cut one of my others to be about 70' or less as i found thats more or less all i need.
The Ddrt helps me progress out onto other long almost vertical stems, and i can set and SRT redirect at my highest point then double crotch if i want or leave the Ddrt system at the redirct i can.

sometimes i will not put my SRT line thru a redirect and just set my Ddrt system in the woud be redirect, that way if i dont have a need to go back to the redirect, i can just pull my ddrt system out and return to the path of my SRT line. its like my ddrt is my "progress" line and my SRT is line my return line

i want to practice with two SRT lines more but im really digging what i had going with what i just explained. just have to clean up the ddrt with a shorter line.

theres still things i really like about ddrt, so for me blending the two has been pretty effective
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Your method will work very well in many cases, but what I keep finding is that the farther out to the edge of the canopy I need to go, the more I want 2 SRT lines. Using ponytail retrieval on one or both of the lines allows moving circumferentially around the edge of a crown where it was more radial before (center-out, center-out, and so on...).

Lately, I've been putting a Butterfly in the middle of my 200' KMIII, and locating my anchor line/work line connection up in the crown, just below the TIP. At that connection, I have the KMIII butterfly and the Tachyon connected. I'll throw the lines out to a few different mid-crown redirects and I have all sorts of options.

Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon...House of Flying Daggers...standing on twigs if you want.

Andre, not sure if you're doing so, but I think something that might make your DSRT comparable to what you're doing now is to carry along a static redirect sling (or 2 if they're compact). A couple carabiners and web slings can work wonders.
 
Thanks for sharing the french video. I haven't seen that before. I love seeing different ways of doing things. It is a very exciting time in our field, and it keeps a fire going in me. Thanks to Kevin and everyone else for their contributions.
 
CutHighnLetFly said:
what do you mean "ponytail retrieval"? i know you and others have mentioned it before.
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Climb on a bight going through the union, so you can pull it out by means of the tail when you're done with it. In other words, climb to union, pass the Bone through, but not the entire line. Pull what slack you need to work but not too much to pull your entire tail through...
 
Here's my latest DSRT setup with two Bones. Huge thanks to Tom Dunlap for the micro swivel mod idea. I originally didn't go for it since I thought one little swivel was a bit limiting if you can't make other attachments to it, but in this application it really is supreme. This is really working nicely.

I can relocate either line by removing it from the Bone. Once I'm ready to tie back in, I can spin the empty Bone to whichever direction I want to load the line back in. In other words, if the line on the right gets redirected and now comes to me from the left, I can take the Bone on the right and spin it to the left side of the setup while still weighted into the other Bone. All the hardware can stay connected right to the bridge.

Oh, and Kevin, flips are working for sure with this setup!

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Drop test of an early three arm OAR with the next size smaller chain links than those used in the Bulldog Bone, which were open ended (no snap swivel link) The drum had 200 lbs of water, the rope was 1/2" nylon.
 
Here's my most refined setup. Safety mods on the uppers, scalloped upper arms to match the lowers, and relocated the tending points. Rubber grommets on the carabiner to keep everything aligned proper.

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