DON'T EVEN TRY IT!

ppsavage said:
I wonder how much property damage or personal injury this dude has caused in his long and lucrative career?
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ppsavage said:
I don't know I think based on location alone I'd have to pick rico I mean buck's county pa aint really my cup of tea but rico does seem a little irritable sometimes... maybe if switched the coffee for green tea it'd be a good time.

I get that daniel is maybe sarcastic in this title but seems more like click bait and definite trolling. gets a lot of bites too. it's weird school yard behavior from both sides. the guy has been doing this for years I've been reading these forums since before it was ezphloem v daniel which was way more funny but this is just petty I mean no one is saving the world from daniel. This kind of reaction only encourages him to come back with even whackier shit for more abuse, it's endless.

Anyone who watches a video of some bloke on youtube doing intentional barberchair or wrecking huge trees with no ppe and try to blindly replicate it irl without considering the consequences kinda deserves what they have coming right? I liked watching mad mike blast off in his steam rockets but I sure as hell wasn't going to try to replicate the experience because obviously he was off his meds and bound to crash and burn.
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Curious what you consider to be the most important in the prevention of accidents/injuries? In other words what is our front line defense.
 
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don't you think you should reach out to all those people who commented on daniels vids and let them know it actually was not beneficial or helpful to them they're just confused?
 
Now I realize you ain't the brightest bulb in the pack, so I'm gonna clue you in on a little secret. Daniel blocks and deletes negative comments on his youtube vids...... Notice the 102 thumbsdown? How many of those do you reckon would have spoken their minds if they were allowed to do so? I know I would have...

Youtube is much like the rest of the world in that there are those of who us who know better because of the knowledge we have earned through experience, and folks like yourself that don't have a fucking clue....

Curious buddy... are you a pro climber, logger, faller, or are you just a lurker?

A little evening entertainment for you buddy...Seems right up your alley ppsavage. Might even warrant a thumbs up and a positive comment? No doubt you are ignorant enough to actually believe Daniel when he talks of a "Modified Coos Bay". Fucking please!!!

 
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Again it was an honest question...I don't recall seeing any of your work, and I dont recall you participating in conversations about climbing, rigging, or cutting, so I asked. Tough to get a straight answer from you though....
 

target round was 50'+ from the stump. the tree was crooked. Falling sideways across a hill... There was a concrete curb under those leaves, which would have cost hundreds of dollars to repair had that missed the round. It takes confidence in your skillset to trust when there is property of value at risk. This isn't trying to hit a stake in the middle of a yard. And this is no straight west coast stick.
 
So what your saying is that instead of hitting a 2" wide stake from 125 ft, you managed to hit a 3-4 ft wide stump from 50 ft. EXTREMELY impressive Daniel, but if NOT hitting the curb that you tell us was under the leaves was your objective, you might have wanted to do something about the small spar on the backside that slammed into the pile of leaves where the curb was supposedly hidden? I can't seem to find the curb 0:44-0:55, so I will take it on good faith that it was actually there....I also don't recall ever seeing a tree-man launch more shit into paved roads and driveways in my life....I reckon you just carry a few bags of cold patch in the truck, or maybe you just get damage waivers on every job you do?
 
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Hey Daniel I'm glad you came back to the thread just wanted to say you rock, man, one of the best arbs in the public eye alive today. Keep on keepin on, haters gonna hate, keep stackin that cash. PP
 
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So instead of hitting a 2" wide stake from 125 ft, you hit a 3-4ft wide stump in the middle of someones front yard. That was truly impressive, but if NOT hitting the curb that you tell us was under the leaves was your objective, you might have wanted to do something about the small spar on the backside that slammed into the pile of leaves where the curb was supposedly hidden? I can't seem to find the curb 0:44-0:55, so I will take it on good faith that it was actually there....I also don't recall ever seeing a tree-man launch more shit into paved roads and driveways in my life....I reckon you just carry a few bags of cold patch in the truck, or maybe you just get damage waivers on every job you do?
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Well he hit the stump, ok. But why not make a few extra cuts when you are up there to be sure the stick is short enough to miss the curb/ driveway. I have made this point repeatedly, why take any chance if its avoidable. In this case quite easily. I know his defense will be that he is super extra mega confident and skilled. Your right, that 2nd spar hitting the driveway is taking a chance. I tell my guys great you made 1000 cuts with no mistake, the 1 you miss and cause damage will cost you more than all the time you saved from not taking the extra time to reduce/eliminate chances. Dropping big shit on concrete and asphalt should be avoided.
 
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Well he hit the stump, ok. But why not make a few extra cuts when you are up there to be sure the stick is short enough to miss the curb/ driveway. I have made this point repeatedly, why take any chance if its avoidable. In this case quite easily. I know his defense will be that he is super extra mega confident and skilled. Your right, that 2nd spar hitting the driveway is taking a chance. I tell my guys great you made 1000 cuts with no mistake, the 1 you miss and cause damage will cost you more than all the time you saved from not taking the extra time to reduce/eliminate chances. Dropping big shit on concrete and asphalt should be avoided.
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Yep. If a fella can't hit a 3-4 ft lay from 50 ft he probably should be in this game. More important is why whomever was up there didn't take the few extra minutes necessary to shorten that spar enough so that it didn't slam into the street and curb (that may or may not have been there). Laziness? Just didn't give a fuck? Misjudged its height?
 
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Yep. If a fella can't hit a 3-4 ft lay from 50 ft he probably should be in this game. More important is why whomever was up there didn't take the few extra minutes necessary to shorten that spar enough so that it didn't slam into the street and curb (that may or may not have been there). Laziness? Just didn't give a fuck? Misjudged its height?
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I think he has something to prove or doesnt know better. Once again people dont pay me to take chances and make videos they pay me to not break shit.
 
ppsavage said:
Hey Daniel I'm glad you came back to the thread just wanted to say you rock, man, one of the best arbs in the public eye alive today. Keep on keepin on, haters gonna hate, keep stackin that cash. PP
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Gee PP, you might want to inform little Jimmy as to just just how lucky he was to have Daniel Murphy smash his swing set. Thank goodness Daniel had little Jimmy sign a damage waiver so he wasn't held liable for his hackery-

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Imagine the immense sense of pride this stump had in knowing that Daniel Murphy was the man responsible for hacking away at him with a dull saw. Now I realize you probably don't fully understand what you are looking at, but trust me when I tell you this is possibly the worst undercut in human history....

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There is a super cool vid of Daniel floating around here in which he unnecessarily smashes a good 40 ft of a homeowners fence, and if my memory serves me correctly I believe he only charged the HO $6000 for the privilege of having him smash their valuables..... No doubt Daniel had a damage waiver on that one too, or he wouldn't be stacking soo much mutherfuckin cash.....That is what its all about after all?
 
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that wasn't a driveway. that was the street.

the story of why not shorten it up is a good one.

Dave Bryant did the climbing on the tree. I think that was the first ones he ever climbed with me. good story too. no time to tell it but be patient
 
Oh goody, another back filled, make it up as you go, fire side chat with Daniel....I commend you for taking some time to try and come up with a credible explanation that makes a lick of sense Daniel....I can hardly fucking wait......

Daniel you remember that time you told us you had permission from the HO's to smash their fence, but after you smashed some of their fence the HO's miraculously decided that you now longer had permission to smash their fence, so you had to leave your climber in the tree for god knows how long while you guys removed the fence you previously had permission to smash? Fucking good times bro...
 
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ppsavage said:
Hey Daniel I'm glad you came back to the thread just wanted to say you rock, man, one of the best arbs in the public eye alive today. Keep on keepin on, haters gonna hate, keep stackin that cash. PP
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Well that's very kind of you to say that

It's an interesting dynamic here and I appreciate you speaking up that doesn't appear to be doing much good.
 
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here it is. Some of you might know Dave Bryant, "treeslayer" from the early days on arboristsite.. He's from VA, and helped me out getting stump grinding work in Williamsburg after Hurricane Isabel.

He was in his "have saw will travel" mode so he came to Philly and stayed in the in-law's suite. I had seen some of his cuts and was trying to show him there was a better way. But I know how tree guys are. So rather than have an argument about which falling cut is better I wanted to show him, in a convincing way.

I think this was only the second day we worked together. He had climbed the tree and asked me a couple of times if I wanted him to take it down to shorten the fall. I told him to leave it as a way of demonstrating how much confidence I had in the open face. There is a distinction between thinking you're good, and having the kind of confidence it takes to trust your skill when there is property at risk. The more expensive the property, the more confidence needed. That's often not fully appreciated in this biz.

The next day Dave asked for a lesson in falling trees.

Here's a video I put up that he sent me from VA. nice job, though there is a lot of profanity:

 
WTF? I thought you were gonna spend some time coming up with a rational, credible explanation as to why your spar was too long, but that certainly wasn't it....Surely you can do better than that buddy.. I bought fucking graham crackers, chocolate bars, and marshmallows thinking we could make smores and sing a little Kumbaya while we all sat around the fire intently listening to your amazing tales. You have once again managed to leave me utterly limp and flaccid, which ain't easy to do....

I'm also slightly confused and having a really hard time grasping what "your confidence in the open face" has to do with the fact that your spar was simply too long, which caused it to slam into the street and the Non-Existent Curb. You then go on to pontificate about the amazing skill and confidence that is needed when valuable shit is on the line, yet we all got to watch you unnecessarily pile drive your spar into the only possible valuables in sight (the street and the Non Existent Curb).......It seems to me that any skilled professional with a shred of sound judgement would have simply taken the few moments needed to flop a few small logs on the lawn, which would have instantly removed the risk of breaking anything, including the Non-Existent Curb............But what the fuck do I know?
 
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