DMM throw hook.

[Dave Rohach]

Okay Graig, tell me that's not you playing trapeze artist! Obviously, an experienced climber, but definitely not using the whole deck of cards to play solitaire with. That's just asking for a trip in an ambulance! crazy x2

 

[Dave Rohach]

The difference in the dollar is having that effect on many of my potential purchases.

Would it be less if you had it shipped short of the border and picked up? Just curious, or are you too far north for that scenario?

 

[123Craig]

Okay Graig, tell me that's not you playing trapeze artist! Obviously, an experienced climber, but definitely not using the whole deck of cards to play solitaire with. That's just asking for a trip in an ambulance! crazy x2

Ha - I don't have a single vid of me climbing... If I did - it would be pretty embarrassing. This climber does some crazy configurations with gear (not all of it useful)...

The difference in the dollar is having that effect on many of my potential purchases.

I know... Puts you off buying toys... I mean tools...

 

[squad143]

Would it be less if you had it shipped short of the border and picked up? Just curious, or are you too far north for that scenario?

Shipping and duty are not the issue. Our dollar has dropped in value against the US dollar. Mainly to to the worldwide drop in oil prices.
As of today it cost us approx. $140 Canadian to purchase a $100 US item.

You can see that as early as July of last year that same $100 US item would have only cost us $105 CDN. - a little bit more reasonable.

 

[Dave Rohach]

WOW, that's depressing, gas here is $1.29/gal. Haven't seen it this low in 30 yrs. You guys are taking it in the shorts! Not funny!

 

[Ryan Keats]

In Vancouver gas is $1.00 a liter, so $4 a gallon. I'm with you fellow Canadians. Would have a lot more gear if the dollar wasn't so bad.

 

[moss]

Okay Graig, tell me that's not you playing trapeze artist! Obviously, an experienced climber, but definitely not using the whole deck of cards to play solitaire with. That's just asking for a trip in an ambulance! crazy x2

I thought his technique was solid, he was always tied in twice when he was ascending on the hook. The traverse hook-up was what the tool was designed for. That was pretty clever using the ZZ single rope in a double rope setup, the ZZ worked well on descent with the other system taking half his weight.
-AJ

 

[southsoundtree]

WOW, that's depressing, gas here is $1.29/gal. Haven't seen it this low in 30 yrs. You guys are taking it in the shorts! Not funny!

I thought $1.89 was easy to swallow, here.

How is gas so cheap?

 

[Dave Rohach]

I thought $1.89 was easy to swallow, here.

How is gas so cheap?

When a barrel of oil is selling for less than $28 a barrel, the difference in prices in the states are the state taxes on refined petroleum goods.

 

[123Craig]

I thought his technique was solid, he was always tied in twice when he was ascending on the hook. The traverse hook-up was what the tool was designed for. That was pretty clever using the ZZ single rope in a double rope setup, the ZZ worked well on descent with the other system taking half his weight.
-AJ

Hi Moss. I know I could be wrong - but as far as I'm aware I cannot see the climber tied in twice all the time when ascending on the hook. I know it's no biggie - but I also think it's a Zillion as opposed to a Zig Zag. Of course I could be completely wrong...

On a separate issue - I also think the climber may be using Japanese Tree Climbing Spikes/Claws/Crab on the ascent - really hard to tell though (I'm possibly seeing black straps around the feet on the ascent).

Thanks

 

[misfit]

I have never used any of these throw hooks, and I am wondering if someone out there can answer my question about them. Knowing that I am pretty much guaranteed to miss my throw 90% of the time, just how easy is it to retrieve the throw hook for another throw? Can it be finessed enough to NOT hook on a branch so that I can get it back to me? I imagine that the more dense the tree, the more difficult, if not impossible, it would be.

 

[MikePowers321]

I have never used any of these throw hooks, and I am wondering if someone out there can answer my question about them. Knowing that I am pretty much guaranteed to miss my throw 90% of the time, just how easy is it to retrieve the throw hook for another throw? Can it be finessed enough to NOT hook on a branch so that I can get it back to me? I imagine that the more dense the tree, the more difficult, if not impossible, it would be.

I have a homemade throwhook I use. Generally, you can give the hook a couple good whips and it will loosen its grip on just about anything. Then you can continue to get it to swing into position, much like a throwball.

I use it quite often and have yet to get it stuck (but that surely doesn't mean it can't). I imagine this DMM product is much better than mine, and based on its looks, would be even less likely to get snagged.

I also connect my throwhook with a steel caribiner. It adds weight so that those you can manipulate the hook with those whips much easier. Especially when you run into a decent amount of friction, on say, a thick conifer.

 

[Treetopflyer]

I have a homemade throwhook I use. Generally, you can give the hook a couple good whips and it will loosen its grip on just about anything. Then you can continue to get it to swing into position, much like a throwball.

I use it quite often and have yet to get it stuck (but that surely doesn't mean it can't). I imagine this DMM product is much better than mine, and based on its looks, would be even less likely to get snagged.

I also connect my throwhook with a steel caribiner. It adds weight so that those you can manipulate the hook with those whips much easier. Especially when you run into a decent amount of friction, on say, a thick conifer.

What your homemade material consist of Mike? I'm looking to make my own with the prices I'm seeing for these hooks.

 

[MikePowers321]

Steel rod and a steel bushing welded together really. Not pictured but a little loop of throwline near the bottom keeps it hanging upside on my saddle.

 

[TimBr]

Gorgeous work, Mike.

Tim

 

[Merle Nelson]

Tim you should have some great welder/machinist on speed dial and be trading him tree work.

 

[WaitakKauri]

I so want to draw up measurements of the epple and make one for personal use (with a small change to add a mini biner for hanging on the saddle and internal weight option - to see how that affects use). Costs are high to import when converting the dollar and adding international freight.... sigh.

But, to keep excited about hooks, the folks at Treekit in the UK just posted these.

 

[123Craig]

Am I allowed to link to other Arb Forums on the Buzz? - Apologies if I'm not;

This thread leads to many ideas:
http://arbtalk.co.uk/forum/treekit/97165-dmm-captain-hook-first-impressions.html

 

[JonesClimber]

Hi Moss. I know I could be wrong - but as far as I'm aware I cannot see the climber tied in twice all the time when ascending on the hook. I know it's no biggie - but I also think it's a Zillion as opposed to a Zig Zag. Of course I could be completely wrong...

On a separate issue - I also think the climber may be using Japanese Tree Climbing Spikes/Claws/Crab on the ascent - really hard to tell though (I'm possibly seeing black straps around the feet on the ascent).

Thanks

He is using Japanese Tree Spikes. He appears to live on a tree farm in Japan, I would assume from his videos. He is pretty crafty, but does try some crazy things from time to time. He has like a million videos on YT, his channel is called daigentanoen.

On a side note, in the video that was posted for reference, the force he is putting on the hook is straight down, and at the union, I know it's not intended for this, but I've seen worse. (I'm not defending him or his abilities)


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[123Craig]

Just posting to spur some ideas.