Disenchantment with the industry.

I definitely burned out at a similar age. I was doing mostly PHC and landscape construction by 29 (I’m 33 now). I ended up moving across the country for a year, did vineyard and farm management stuff before coming back home and returning to school. Then focusing more on arboriculture.

Before I had focused more on arb work I was doing PHC/construction at the same company for over 10 years. I hit a plateau there and they didn’t want to invest in my professional development. I wanted to buy out the contracting side of the company, but they were too stuck in their ways and didn’t want to move at the same pace as me. So I moved on. You’re still new to the industry, I think feeling a plateau at 5 years isn’t all that uncommon.

I think 3 things stood out that rejuvenated my love for this and making it my career choice. Education, diversity and honesty.

Education gave me the knowledge and confidence that enabled me to move forward. I got my current job through my school. It may seem like a big undertaking to go to school and work; both financially and time wise. But if you can find a small state school with a program I assure you it’s worth the effort and cost is not that bad. My program I completed in 2 years and worked while doing it. In the grand scheme of things that’s not much time and will make you more valuable=more $$$$ long term. I quickly appreciated the knowledge I had to perform my job better, more nuanced and enjoyed using that to communicate with clients.

Diversity keeps things fresh. I started off mostly PHC and construction. That gets boring and old quick. Now I’m climbing, PHC, consulting and support in sales. One day I’ll be making treatments, then on an airspade, then a pruning job and then doing an inventory or risk assessment. It’s a lot of hats to wear, and the consulting gig is new, but it keeps things very fresh and new. Some, maybe most, are happy just climbing or PHC but you kind of sound similar to myself. So you might appreciate at least adding one new skill to the mix. It will make you stand out in the industry and very valuable if you can branch out beyond just climbing. My recommendation is PHC as it will give you a deeper knowledge of the trees you work on.

And honesty with it is super important. Is this what you really want to do long term? Not every day is going to be a big job, or an interesting job. Most days aren’t, and the company you work for may be very limited. Do you see better opportunities for other companies? Do you want to be climbing still in 10, 20, 30 years? Some guys do it, love it and are happy climbing in their 50s and 60s. But you need to be realistic and create a plan whether you’re going to climb that long or look for an exit plan to save your body.

Good job on reaching out here. I have asked similar career type questions here and just interacting with other people here is a huge help in moving forward. It’s not always easy to have an outlet to discuss things like this with likeminded people out in everyday life. Treebuzz is an excellent meeting of minds in the arb world.
 
One Small mistake while racing can be catastrophic.

I never approach the pulse rate at work, even dragging/ pulling a loaded AT as when high off the ground at a comp.

The incident I mentioned at the comp was in 2011.

The climber was my former (short term) employer when I first moved to the area. Lots of safety issues, such as a guy nearly losing his thumb on a job I was on, and not long after I left, the climber/ owner rolled his truck with employees off his driveway causing injury (as I hear it).


There was an aerial rescue event where the access line was in one tree, and the patient was in an adjacent tree.

I watched the climber fiddling with blingy stuff on the ground. I thought from my perch that it looked like it was probably pretty new/ new, and he was not 100% solid, because why would someone be fiddling with it if it was old hat.

I don't recall exactly what happened as it happened so quickly, and I didn't speak to the climber or staff about it, after it happened, as it played out.

It seems like there was some kinda transfer from the access line where there should have been a knot tied to form a bight to clip-in the climber's line, but it was tied as a slipknot, I think. There was no lanyarding in, somehow. When the climber weighted his line (possibly attached the new system without a 100% body-weight test before disconnecting from the access line, probably zero testing) it seems to me that I watched the slipped eye start to open up. His expression was of great surprise. He lanyarded-in, reconfigured, and continued.
 
I can't thank you all enough for taking time out of your days to respond to my original post and give your advice.

I love hearing the wisdom of those that have experienced more than me.

Without giving too much away; I'm a certified Arborist and climber specialist. I get satisfaction from removing trees safely, but I prefer pruning. Nothing makes my blood boil like clients insisting on (what I was taught to be) improper pruning like reducing deciduous trees like maples and plums with heading cuts. I understand that at a certain point we need to take the work we can get, but I still don't like it.

Is anyone else having a hard time finding work right now? I feel like our backlog isn't what it should be considering the time of year. Starting to fear a layoff in the winter.

I think that a lot of you are right in that people and atmosphere have a lot to do with the current slump. I haven't had many opportunities to do the type of work that I love to do recently, and I find that my current team doesn't bring out the best in me.

That being said, we have a part time groundsman on my team with a great attitude, and the best days I've been having have been when I'm able to be a good teacher for him.

To your credit, Boomslang, I think your totally right. Social media has a cost and you hit the nail on the head. It only shows highlights, and gives unrealistic expectations; a problem bigger than just tree work.

For those of you that mentioned competitions, that's something else I've been thinking about. I know I'm not good enough to perform well, but I'm sure I would learn a lot by competing.

Again, thank you all so much for the responses.
How'd it end up? You still in trees?
 
I ended up finding employment at a public garden as an arborist. I feel really fortunate that I get to be in a slightly different corner of the industry, and still be able to do what I love.
Good on ya. That part of the industry has always intrigued me. Good luck!
 
I ended up finding employment at a public garden as an arborist. I feel really fortunate that I get to be in a slightly different corner of the industry, and still be able to do what I love.
I always thought that could be a really great job. Spending all the time with the same trees on the same patch of dirt, could really gain a understanding..
 
@dtreez sounds like you found something fresh, and that is exciting!!! If you’ve never been to one of the big events (expo, arborfest etc…..) you should go!, even if your flame just needs a little rekindling….. tons of fun stuff to see and learn, and you’ll be surrounded by passionate people that are really hyped on the (one of a zillion) facets of the industry, and the energy is contagious!!
 
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@dtreez sounds like you found something fresh, and that is exciting!!! If you’ve never been to one of the big events (expo, arborfest etc…..) you should go!, even if your flame just needs a little rekindling….. tons of fun stuff to see and learn, and you’ll be surrounded by passionate people that are really hyped on the (one of a zillion) facets of the industry, and the energy is contagious!!
That is true, many years ago I went to a big show in the UK when I was struggling with a bad back and general malaise about the job.
Came away from it buzzing, realizing what a great job it is.
 
@dtreez sounds like you found something fresh, and that is exciting!!! If you’ve never been to one of the big events (expo, arborfest etc…..) you should go!, even if your flame just needs a little rekindling….. tons of fun stuff to see and learn, and you’ll be surrounded by passionate people that are really hyped on the (one of a zillion) facets of the industry, and the energy is contagious!!
Always something to be gained from those. Not sure about all of the local chapters, but Ohio usually has a pretty good annual meeting/conference.

If that doesn't get you excited about tree care, try going to an accountant or actuarial meeting - I bet tree care sounds a lot more interesting!
 

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