Compact Bulldog Bone

yes i imagine it will, the bone is essentially 2 wrenches..
I can't see it affecting ascent much at all, you pull rope through it, you sit back..
for descent.. well if the upper arm is too loaded to disengage then i'd have to work the lower one, it could certainly be done. Otherwise devise a way to wrap the trailing end of the rope around the terminating end to pull down and reduce that load (again like with the uni)...
 
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If you want the Bone to self tend during DdRT, I would recommend a small prussic with a small clip. Prussic onto the standing end of the double line, and clip into the brass D-ring, then you can self tend the Bone at arms length. (this can be used with an O rig configuration also)

I have tried to use a bowline on a bight, forming two rather long loops that then attach down at the teardrop attach point on either side of the Bone at the biner.
The problem here is that the loops tend to interfere with the upper arm when weighted.
 
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The bull dog bone is by far bar none the baddest fucking climbing tool ever made!!
This is a question for those of you who have a fair amount of experience with the Rope Runner vs the Bull Dog Bone. Is one noticably better than the other on ascent or descent? Is the Bone any less temperamental when switching between ropes of different diameters? Is it more or less difficult to move when you happen to hit a patch of pitch on your rope? Or is it mainly about the ease of getting the Bone on and off the rope? I have been using a Rope Runner for about a year and I am just curious why some people are so sold on the Bone.
 
@ARLO; I own neither, so I can answer none of your questions. I just wanted to say that you just asked a bunch of great ones in your post just above mine, some that I've never seen get asked before.

I look forward to reading the responses from the members that are in a position to know. Thanks for asking the questions, and thereby possibly expanding the knowledge base of all of the rest of us.

Tim
 
Where can I purchase a Bulldog Bone?

Hey, Jbtrouble23! Welcome to the TreeBuzz forum! I think you are going to like it here!

As to where you need to go to buy a Bulldog Bone, I believe there is only one source for the item, and that is from the inventor and manufacturer, @surveyor. You need to send him a private message and ask him how to proceed. His product is just beautiful to look at, from all of the photos I've seen. (I still do not yet own one.) Everything I've heard about the transactions people have with surveyor are all good.

If you decide to buy one, please be sure to share your experiences with the device with all of us here on the forum. Good luck.

Tim
 
This is a question for those of you who have a fair amount of experience with the Rope Runner vs the Bull Dog Bone. Is one noticably better than the other on ascent or descent? Is the Bone any less temperamental when switching between ropes of different diameters? Is it more or less difficult to move when you happen to hit a patch of pitch on your rope? Or is it mainly about the ease of getting the Bone on and off the rope? I have been using a Rope Runner for about a year and I am just curious why some people are so sold on the Bone.
Your going to have to use a bone to know if it's better cause it just might not be for you. Although personally it's exactly what I want.
If I'm switching ropes with different dia., it takes me about 30-45 seconds switching the bollards. Its great cause it's fast. That being said when the board is switched, you get what you get. Hard to fine tune for ropes as it is. Unlike the rope runner where adjustments are made on the device without changing stuff. I would assume it takes longer to adjust tho, but will be precise.
I also love that the bone is so short and the hand positions just work for me.
 
@CutHighnLetFly; Please forgive me if I seem a little bit confused. I still own neither device, and all that I know about them is just based on what I've read in the forums.

I thought that the Rope Runner also needed to be adjusted for different sizes of rope by also changing out a bollard of one size for a bollard of another size. I was not aware of it being possible to make a change in how the Rope Runner behaves with a particular rope on the fly, without changing out one component for another. If there is some level of adjustability available to the user of the Rope Runner without the need for swapping out a bollard, you are telling me something that I don't think I knew about previously.

One of the big selling points for the Akimbo, whenever it comes to market, is going to be this ability to be adjusted on the fly for different sizes of rope without ever having to remove and replace any components.

My feeling about the way one would use the Bulldog Bone is to get it set up for whatever your chosen climbing line is, possibly put a label on it to be sure it gets matched up correctly every time, and then leave it alone. Quick on and off for short redirects. If you want to climb with two different ropes, buy two Bulldog Bones, and dedicate each device to its chosen rope. I'd hate to run the risk of dropping a bollard out of the tree, thereby rendering the device useless. I'd rather change bollards in a controlled environment, on the ground. I guess it's nice to know that you could do it in the tree in an emergency, but I myself would not want to make a regular habit of it.

Apologies, I just realized that you never said you'd be trying to do the bollard-changing operation while in the tree. It's nice to know that it can be done easily, in any event. It just sounds like an exquisitely designed device.

Tim
 
The Runner adjusts by adjusting the upper bollard position as related to the Slick-Pin. It stays in the slot and is just made to move closer or further away from the slick pin. The lower area that some of us have played with(baby bump) is another way to control friction but that is something different.
 
@monkeylove; Thanks for that piece of information. That is somewhat how my Rope Wrench ZK-1 has the ability to be adjusted. I guess Kevin took one of the better aspects of the original Rope Wrench and managed to incorporate it into the Rope Runner.

Thanks again for your help.

Tim
 
This is a question for those of you who have a fair amount of experience with the Rope Runner vs the Bull Dog Bone. Is one noticably better than the other on ascent or descent? Is the Bone any less temperamental when switching between ropes of different diameters? Is it more or less difficult to move when you happen to hit a patch of pitch on your rope? Or is it mainly about the ease of getting the Bone on and off the rope? I have been using a Rope Runner for about a year and I am just curious why some people are so sold on the Bone.
I don't have hardly any time on a runner or any other mechanical srtwp device ... Admittedly before I even knew what a forum was I was shown a video of the roperunner hype vid Kevin originally put out. I was instantly in lust with it eagerly awaiting the release. In the mean time the same person who showed me the vid showed me the buzz. I stumbled upon this thread and a few pages into it. I realized how important it was an attribute to myself for how and where I'm at as a climber to be able to quickly without dropping something to take on and off the device. I've been full srtwp since the zk2 wrench came out to market. I mention the timing because mostly when I was reduction pruneing or something and finding the ability of srt to rediredi through a canopy until smal stuff that's not as easily passed with a device or hitch or whatever on the line even with good flips to pulls and such that the bone seemed more attractive now than ever to me. So I pulled the trigger did the best thing for myslef I could done as a climber I bought a bone....three bones later through some good luck ,and grace from surveyor ...not for lack of toughness ,but becuase it don't switch bollards I switch bones and the immense amount of dsrt I run. The dually bones with a back up seemed minimal ..lol..Any ways to the point.. Sorry..all of my bones are getting well worn ..they all tended like butter from the start ..even with my best dressed loose bitch hitch that knew when to open her legs and shut her mouth on my cord under the zk2 couldn't compare to how the bone Tends for me...if I'm over thirty feet up maybe less if lines over me not off camber I can climb without a footie and The swing chestie hooked up the bone will eat up the line.. swing chestie was a big help with that..somenmay say more about the runner in the same regards i dobt know ..along with dailing it into yourself and your style.. Example long tether stiff , floppy tether bungee.. Up through arms ..out back through tending hole..every fine detail maKes the difference.. But the control I feel out of the top or control arrms on swings ,bombs, jumps , gradual descents , slight postional adjustments. Its just all there for me with this tool cbdb. In a 3:1 the to pins make a nice bend radius.. Easy peasy even before I polished them finely with hours of canopy cruises..I mean I could go on and on.. In a nut shell.. The SAP ain't shit for me..it hardly touches the rope going up for me.. Grabs right when I stop ..stops me where and when I want. No sit back ..Can go for fast or slow with slight pressure changes . I'm sure you can say much of the same about your runner , a phenomenal tool indeed.Suppose it is just how I can weave like out of one redi forward line through another and just pop my bone off REAL QUICK and let it go from my hands ..manuaver my line with peace of mind , no bumps in the road. Nothing but rope and tree, feeling free..It's been building up in me for sometime now and I'll release it all soon.. I love my bones! Climb safe all!
 
Is anyone running their bone on Vortex? I got some a few months back and been using it since. It was super smooth to start with but now the rope's fluffed up some it's getting to be a bit of a squeeze putting the bone on and off the line. I was thinking about maybe enlarging the grooves by the swing links a touch to make it a bit easier, anyone done this/any reason why not to?
 

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