Compact Bulldog Bone

Threw together a quick vid of my first impressions of the BDB. I've put at least 6 hours of climbing on it.
Just some stuff I've learned, some thoughts on the BDB, a little rec footage, mixed with some self-deprecating humor.
I'm a tree guy not a videographer so gimme a break on the amateur iMovie production.
Thanks to everyone here on the BDB forum for being such awesome helpful humans.

 
surveyor said:
I do notice when installing the taper pins, that often the pin will engage deeper in one hole than the other on the same chainlink. I am usually able to tap the pins in flush with the inner side of the friction pin but not always. I have never had one refuse to go at least flush with the snap swivel link, but I always support the inner side of the friction pin when tapping the taper pin in. You might want to consider filing your top taper pin down a bit.
The handhold around your thumb looks like it might damage your thumb joint. If you tend there, just be aware that if you bear too much downward weight there, it will cause the Bone to release.
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Thanks Gordon; I am still to take a further look at that Upper Taper Pin that sticks out - I'll see what I can do...

If the tether harms my hand - I'll change it. I am aware that as it is such a short loop - I'll have to be careful that I don't push down on the upper arm when I'm not meaning to. If the tether doesn't work properly - I'll change it.

Really cool little Bone intro video there wyatt!

I agree with some others on here that the Bone is still a little too jerky on the release than I would prefer. I'll keep monitoring how it develops with my rope.
 
Fun Video Wyatt. you looked real smooth. And though you said Imori wasn't the best, it seemed to tend and belay well in the video. Candidly I have used Imori on the bone and though it wasn't perfect, it worked well and I like the feel and grip of Imori. Not saying it is the best...just saying it works. And not all ropes do.

Regarding your CONs...you are wrong. Having a boner isn't a bad thing - ever :-)
 
123Craig said:
I agree with some others on here that the Bone is still a little too jerky on the release than I would prefer. I'll keep monitoring how it develops with my rope.
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@123Craig my BDB is acting the same way right now. I just received a new 120' hank of Yale Arrowfrog. It's seen like 3/4 trees since yesterday.

Do you think the bone is a bit jerky on descent because the device is new? Or because the rope is new?

Other folks have mentioned that the bone becomes smoother over time, as the device breaks in.

I sure hope that's the case.
 
D x D said:
Fun Video Wyatt. you looked real smooth. And though you said Imori wasn't the best, it seemed to tend and belay well in the video. Candidly I have used Imori on the bone and though it wasn't perfect, it worked well and I like the feel and grip of Imori. Not saying it is the best...just saying it works. And not all ropes do.

Regarding your CONs...you are wrong. Having a boner isn't a bad thing - ever :)
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In all honesty, Imori is an incredible rope. And it works OK in the bone - if not Good. It does have a great grip/feel to it, looks cool, is lightweight for it's diameter, and is pretty tough. It tends really really well in the bone - however the issue lies in descending the rope. It's as if the BDB is choking on Imori and it can't spit it out. I found my self cranking pretty hard on the top arm. I found it difficult to find a sweet spot, so to speak. Overall, yes, I agree, Imori works.

Yeah see you made a boner joke THIS IS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT!!!!! >:( hahahaha
 
I feel much of a rope's performance in the Bone has a lot to do in part with the weight of the climber. Because the Bone has only 2 friction points (most others have 3), a heavier climber will provide more friction on the lower bollard than a lighter climber will. This totally changes how the upper arms are loaded.

@wyatt spruck , you seem like a lighter guy in your video (cool vid, too!), so your results will be much different than a much heavier climber. With two different weight climbers, but the same rope and bollard, it's still apples and oranges.
 
You might try the smaller bollard, low and slow. I like the Bone best with Cougar, Tachyon, Rocket Line, and KM III.
Because the Imori is "lumpier" than your typical rope, it is probably the top friction link which is harder to release on
Imori rather than the others I mentioned.
 
@oceans I did not know that about other mechanical devices (the 3 points of friction). That makes sense.
yes I'm a leaner fellow. 5' 10" 140-145lbs usually.

Would you say the device gets smoother over the course of time? Should it acclaimate to my weight, rope etc over time the more I climb on it?

Also, I'm using a brand new rope (arrow frog, 11.7). Could the waxy/slippery "coating" of a new piece of cordage have some effect on how the device performs?
 
Thank you @surveyor I'll keep experimenting with bollards/ropes. An excuse to tinker around with climbing gear, I'll use it. haha.

Where do you get those cotter pins from? Would that be something to order from you or could I waltz down to Ace Hardware and find them?
 
wyatt spruck said:
@oceans I did not know that about other mechanical devices (the 3 points of friction). That makes sense.
yes I'm a leaner fellow. 5' 10" 140-145lbs usually.

Would you say the device gets smoother over the course of time? Should it acclaimate to my weight, rope etc over time the more I climb on it?

Also, I'm using a brand new rope (arrow frog, 11.7). Could the waxy/slippery "coating" of a new piece of cordage have some effect on how the device performs?
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In general, the device will slowly break in, but you'll also get more familiar with the device and how it acts. Things that you find touchy or what not will be less noticeable as you acclimate.

Rope condition makes a huge difference. Moisture on a wet day, even just high humidity, it all affects performance. This is why I say you'll acclimate. You'll never have anything that works identically on every single climb throughout the year.

Definitely try different bollard sizes, but only if you waltz! Don't walk, run or drive! :)
 
oceans said:
In general, the device will slowly break in, but you'll also get more familiar with the device and how it acts. Things that you find touchy or what not will be less noticeable as you acclimate.

Rope condition makes a huge difference. Moisture on a wet day, even just high humidity, it all affects performance. This is why I say you'll acclimate. You'll never have anything that works identically on every single climb throughout the year.

Definitely try different bollard sizes, but only if you waltz! Don't walk, run or drive! :)
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@oceans Ten-Four, homie. Over and out.
Thank you.
 
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