Chippers.. they're so cool!

Levi.CO said:
Somehow, someway I have managed to be part of a firm that wins competitive bids against chipper crews constantly for 4 years. Never had even close to a loss on bids from big removals to small pruning... must be a fluke!
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I'd come do a week of work to see how y'all do it.
 
Stephen Moore said:
Let the client do the clean up? Use an excavator and dump truck? Leave the tree on the ground? Leave the tree there and get money up front- drive off?
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Leave the tree there and get money up front- drive off?

Dick move not professional. As for leaving it on the ground remove a 60’ tree that hangs over 3 yards you’d be 20’ deep and unmanageable.
 
TimberJack said:
Sounds horribly labor intensive and inefficient
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How so? Labor wise, you need to get the brush to the chip truck anyways, right? So what's a few more steps to the back of the truck? Doesn't seem horribly intensive to me, but what do I know, I just do exactly that every week. Efficiency wise, well what do you mean? If wood is re-purposed and used to heat homes in the town it grew in or furniture is made and stays local, to me that seems like the peak of efficiency.

The concept of efficiency is highly subjective and varies greatly depending on perspective. If you zoom out a bit and consider the total amount of energy required to- invent, design, manufacture and distribute chippers worldwide, not to mention the cost (resources, not $$$) of operating and maintaining, one might determine that this is in fact a highly inefficient way to deal with a simple problem of brush in the back yard. It is only cultural and industry dogma that leads us to believe this is efficient and somehow better for the world. Who gains? Same as always, Banks, Oil execs, Steel (barons) and insurance monopolies, not the common people by any stretch.

But, it is the way of our culture and society to pass the burden of our convenience to those less fortunate and those who will come after us.

Example: people rave about their iphones are just great and they make life so much more convenient and efficient, wow! Never mind the fact that they are powered by batteries built with Cobalt that is mined by 5 year old destitute children in, where, you guessed it, Africa! Is this really the kind of efficiency we need?

Or how about the bicycle... Is it more efficient to ride your bike across town to go to the store or (because time is saved) is it more efficient to fire up the ol Ford and zip right over there?

None of y'all ever read Walden? Or even the Lorax???
 
I do love our chipper! Not all chippers and chipping operations fall into the same category. Having done it both ways I can say that a small lightweight, gas-powered chipper that can be hauled with a 3/4 ton truck and makes nice chips that everyone wants, works better than hauling piles of brush off. Reusing tree limbs in the form of chips has great benefits for the trees and the soil they live in.
We have always saved firewood or millable logs, that just makes sense.
 
Levi.CO said:
I'm guessing you are not serious, but if you are, you're more then welcome anytime!
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I am absolutely serious! I'd like to come work with almost everyone here. Just waiting on a unicorn that can do (even almost all of) my job. As soon as that is covered, I can take off a week here or there and go play.

Learning different approaches is everything. I hope to shift into training/consulting over the next 20 years or so. I'll have to do something besides production when I am old, and I don't want to be a salesman or an owner.
 
DSMc said:
I do love our chipper! Not all chippers and chipping operations fall into the same category. Having done it both ways I can say that a small lightweight, gas-powered chipper that can be hauled with a 3/4 ton truck and makes nice chips that everyone wants, works better than hauling piles of brush off. Reusing tree limbs in the form of chips has great benefits for the trees and the soil they live in.
We have always saved firewood or millable logs, that just makes sense.
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I know how you roll, Dave. Vermeer 6'', right? That is about the only chipper I've used that is borderline reasonable for every Tom, Dick and Harry to be towing hither and yon all across the holy land.

By the way, JD and Dave, no shit? Chips/mulch are good for trees??? There are other ways of creating mulch and chips besides tow-able wood chippers... let the record state...
 
Of course it doesn't. Wrong machine.
For that, you need lots of commercial airliners and the secret gubbermint contrail sauce with rain making juice and mind control drugs. Stop being silly, or I'll send bigfoot and the aliens after you.
 
Levi.CO said:
... By the way, JD and Dave, no shit? Chips/mulch are good for trees???...
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There is nothing better than fresh green chips spread out, on top of the ground and under a tree. Honestly, it is amazing.
The exception is pine chips under pines during beetle flight or other trees with pests that are attracted by wounding pheromones.
 
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