Cabling a spreading silver maple

As I sit sipping coffee in the back yard watching the humming birds dart from huge pink flower to flower so frenetically gathering nectar to stay alive from a beautiful Floss Silk Tree (Chorisia speciosa).

I marvel at the way the limbs with heavy seed pods at their tips move so much further in the light breeze than the limbs without seed pods, building reaction wood as a result of their heavy burdens, which will soon burst open releasing their seeds upon the wind, and relieving those branches of their burdens in a stronger state of being to withstand the coming winter forces of rain and wind.

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This thread has fostered yet another online invention of mine that can be easily and cheaply slapped together and hoisted aloft.

We'll see whether that old lady's tree fitness idea in La Cresta makes more sense and money than the CA's pushing Cobra?

Prepare to defend your faulty premises you mutinous dogs!

A shotgun wedding between florists and arborist?

I'll walk you through it maties...right off the end of that plank!

Get out your calipers as we circumnavigate these branch offices.

jomoco
 
That old lady in La Cresta who hung bowling balls attached to her lemon euc's low laterals using trampoline springs and girth hitched nylon straps, should be credited for this next online invention of mine. I must make an effort to see whether her, or her tree's still alive.

It was prior to 03, probably 02 when I removed a big dead euc over her house in La Cresta. I ate lunch that day under her Citriodora euc marveling at the many bowling balls hanging from springs on the tree's lowest laterals as they seemed to dance together in unison in the slightest breeze. The contrast between the burdened(balled) branches range of motion, with the other unburdened branches was quite noticeable to my arborist's eye.

I remember distinctly thinking to myself that this old lady's either crazy or brilliant, one or the other?

When quizzed about her eccentric bowling ball/spring enhanced lemon euc display at job's end? She promptly replied it was an exercise regime to strengthen the lower branches of her beloved tree during spring and summer months, and unhooked and stowed during winter months.

Now there's no doubt in my mind that from a strictly scientific point of view, this old lady's eccentric regime actually did do exactly what she claimed it did, because live wood reacts to weight, much like human muscles do, by growing larger and stronger.

Anyone who doubts this is kindly requested to stay out of this thread please.

So what's the point of all this you ask?

By replacing the bowling balls with hanging plants, professionally installed into the tree's entire wood structure, on pullies, at say three varying heights, consisting of six plants at each height, for a total of 18 plants in the tree, each set of 6 plants has its own capstan reel, by which they can be lowered to the ground for maintenance/replacement. To make this system more client friendly the hanging ropes are combined with drip line tubing so all the watering schedules can be customized and automatic for each reel of 6 plants.

Stupid, or brilliant? A good pruning prior to plant installment would of course be prudent!

Fortunately I already have a somewhat wealthy client, with a huge tipu tree, that wants my new system installed in her show tree, that has two tiered decking built around it. Maybe a 50 foot spread. She wants all the bells and whistles because she's a very active member of our local exotic plant society.

All the colors, the interchangeability factor to match/contrast each season.

The rigging, attachment methods?

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Gonna do this thing...........see?

jomoco
 
Professional tree advocate or mad scientist?

Trees are self optimizing systems.
Less intervention and removing constraints is a better utilization of your professional time. Perhaps all this fussing about in and around the tree negates any perceived benefit.
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If i remember correctly, all books have pages that are made out of trees (except ebooks); if thats the case, then the book covers all its variables on the tree; if thats the case, then the book is one with the tree and its many variables, forms, problems, and benefits. one could even say that a book is one more benefit, maybe even the last one from many trees; many trees find the inspiration for their beginning, their healing, their protection from us or for us in a books pages. so in my opinion, books and trees have a symbiotic or circle of life relationship. (i hear the lion king song in the back ground :-) )
Don't hate the book or the tree daniel. you have to learn to understand them both and all their intricate complexities.

leave the bucket and the beer gut your getting from riding it all the time(i'm one to talk) behind and get your hands dirty again..... Where is the passion for the undercut, sideways, stepped, bologna, bbqed, misunderstood, rebellious, escorted, wined and dined, intoxicated, pickled, then impregnated, west coast style, put on your underwear and leave her wanting more backcut? Eternal oneness with your slicked back hair and yoga to you daniel......
 
The historic Morton Bay Fig in front of the San Diego Museum of Natural History being an excellent case in point. It has 40 cables in it that should have never been installed in it. I had to replace every stinkin one of them with with new cables and terminations. Took me a couple of weeks.

It took you a couple of weeks to install 40 cables? are you incompetent or slow or both? 40 cables is a lot but two weeks? that tree would have to be the size of the empire state building
 
in my opinion, a rig guy 5/16th system with a hub would be awesome for the maple in question that and a couple of 1" or greater through bolts at the split.

did a water oak with a big split in it a couple of months ago. it was an experiment and has made it through several storms that produced damaging winds in that area of town.

we basically stitched up the split inclusion with multiple points of mechanical advantage, then put in three bolts and three cables all the way up the two main stems. the force applied by ma was progressive and more was applied closer to the split inclusion. i believe it prolonged the inevitable about 10/20 years or so, giving the customer a chance to budget the money for what will likely be a $10000.00+ removal.
 
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Are you cursing me and my fig tree you bloody imposter?

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No i think you are greatly exaggerating the amount of cables and the time of install, but hey its your world rock away. imposter? pretending to be you would be my worst nightmare. i see you as a panty hose kinda guy..... J/K
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how did this get turned into a hanging garden conversation? what is this babylon?
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great idea though would be cool to hang a couple of tropical plants for color in my tree in the back yard
 
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Zoomed right over your head lord Jeffrey!

Best read up on your scripture my lord!

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wow really? i was ribbing you and you get all offensive. So I will respond in kind: For the record you have the dumbest reasons for not liking cobra cables save one: animal interference. some of the stupidest "ideas/inventions" ever. For the record someone already invented spikeless spikes so to speak for palm tree work. Why in the bloody heck would you waste time/materials trying to inoculate the roots on a tree slated for removal? just paint the stump with the same poison and set a fern on it or grind it. leather over the rope your idea? only if you were climbing in the forties. get a grip dude, take chill pill, invent less, do and think more. the world isn't out to get you and nether am i. For the record if a fire is high enough to burn out a cable and and the wind blows hard enough afterward to cause a stem failure.... well we all gotta die sometime
 
Peace ok Jeff?

I'm just relieved that you understand that I intend to make a complete mockery of every CA pushing this Cobra snake oil.

Let that be the basis of our disagreement as each side explains their rationale in a civil respectful manner as possible, ok?

I say adding weight is the only way to trigger reaction wood into growing bigger and stronger on any given branch/trunk, period.

jomoco
 
Those of you that are pro-Cobra need to explain how artificially limiting any branch's movement in the wind somehow makes that limb stronger than a natural unlimited branch in the same conditions?

The Cobra'd branch will be weaker than the natural branch over time, because the forces on it have been artificially lessened rather than increased. The natural branch will put on more girth, and so forth.

Admit it's nothing more than a tree weakening tether, extremely vulnerable to natural elements, guys?

Or be proven dorks scientifically.....see?

jomoco
 
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