Balancers

Oldirty, I love your predictability.

It's like you have an auto-troll app. Like most spam, your app makes up some stuff that doesn't quite make sense, is full of out-of-date references, and is pretty tough to believe. You just activate it and it says things like:

"..it's like the blue oyster bar in this internet forum..."

or

"...i use one sling and anyone using two is probably from the blue oyster bar..."

or

"...i have plenty of time for the blue oyster bar fellas because I'm just waiting around in between picks...."

You're my man, oldirty!
 
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Not for nothing jeremy but i am on the cutting edge. Eh, more like leading edge but whatever.

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I guess you never said you were the best here, you just tell everyone here you are better than them. Which would imply that you think you're the best here. Tone it down Buzzard, and can you explain in more detail the method you use for crane work? From slinging to cutting and all points in between and after.
 
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Not for nothing jeremy but i am on the cutting edge. Eh, more like leading edge but whatever.



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OldDirty, ha ha, I love to hate you.

I really do.

I would like to meet you and then.... metaphorically speaking.

Look into your eyes and see you wonder why I'm staring at you....

Then I slash into your chest cavity with my knife, grab your heart, rip it from it's attachments; bite a chunk of your warm heart meat and spit it and blood into your face. Then grin as you die.

metaphorically speaking, that's all.
 
you don't have the balls to pull that off and not get hurt big time in the process.

you just don't have it in you. metaphorically or in reality. you may fantasize about being a tough guy but you are not.

you just a little man and i would crush you while smiling and laughing at how soft you are.

not at all speaking metaphorically.

i'll even let you wear that gay helmet with taint scratchers on it so you don't get concussed when i pound your head into the pavement.
 
Tom D, anyone? Why is this flamer allowed to post his hate speech on here?

He's not really interesting, and doesn't contribute anything new, like most members of the forum.
 
I would just like to thank all the guys that decided to hijack my thread and turn it into a pissing match. I posted to find out information and you guys destroyed any chance I had of obtaining that information. So let me just thank each of you again thanks for killing my post.
 
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I would just like to thank all the guys that decided to hijack my thread and turn it into a pissing match. I posted to find out information and you guys destroyed any chance I had of obtaining that information. So let me just thank each of you again thanks for killing my post.

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Sorry fordman, welcome to TreeBuzz. I could have told you that this was going to happen the minute that you had posted about balancers.

Seen it many times before.

Getting back to your thread, I personally like 5/8" - 3/4" Stable Braid spliced dead eye slings from 20'-30'. I'll be splicing up some Amsteel II this summer and giving that a try as well.
 
Hey Fordman
I know from an operators standpoint I see alot of guys using amsteel I'm sure theres plenty of options that all occomplish the same end result (a balanced pick my personal favorite). The main thing I would be concernred about is your capacities, use something plenty stong and you dont have to worry about it. In the crane world there are rules for 4 point picks that 3 legs must be able to hold the whole load. In the tree world its left more to commen sense.
Either way I'd like to let you and anyone else following along know that the course we have comming up in March will cover and demonstrate just about every option out there and maybe some fresh on the market stuff. It will be a great chance to try stuff out with the guys using it everyday and then you can make a truely educated purchase maybe from one of our sponsors or onsite vendors. Either way best of luck.
 
Do you drive doubles with that class A. It is faster to bring in a load of logs with a set of doubles.

P-Town, Truro and Wellfleet are a great place to learn about different ropes, considering that it is a population base of fishermen. Many fishermen use winches and cranes at sea.

Who did you train in the fighting arts with Ke-mo-sabe, I always like a good fight for fun and I'm not to far from Bean Town. LOL
 
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Tom D, anyone? Why is this flamer allowed to post his hate speech on here?

He's not really interesting, and doesn't contribute anything new, like most members of the forum.

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awwwwww, wenchy. your feelings being touched in a negative manner? am i making you feel bad? too bad, ballbag. and now you want to cry to tommy d about your tissue issue ?? it's your boyfriend threatening to chew on my heart. which btw, x, you'll never get blood from it's been dead for a loooong time.

anyway, winch, man up. all i am doing is telling people that to be a productive crane climber is to learn to be able to set 2 slings and find the balance point from there.

now if all you are doing is the occasional crane job then sure waste as much time as you want doing the hard way.

as for the climber from TC and his avatar..... you guys are doing a major project were you are probably getting paid on a DBH per tree basis. no matter which way you slice it doing crane work in that manner is not going to lend itself to a major money making process.

is he a bad climber, no. is he as good as he thinks he is? hell no.

you want me to call whine-1-1 for you winchie? you need the whaaaaaaambulace?
 
no doubles endorsement but you can still come on up. north of beantown off rt3.

head towards the prison but take the first right. you won't miss the log and chip pile.

i'll be there around 7 and after 5.

look for the beard.
 
okey dokey c u soon

PS I'll call the night before, look forward to meeting you and I'll see if I can get a set at the site to show you how to hook it up etc.or we can go to a freight yard and use one there...
 
If yall had any sense, you'd realize saying anything to oldirty is a waste of time. It appears he thrives on belittling people, and has some sort of immunity here.

Balancer-wise, we have used them on some of the trickier/dangerous picks, but when using two or one strap is acceptable, it is always faster. Fire away.
 
When making some out of lengths of rope, tenex, or whatever, what is the knot you would use to attach to the hook? thinking that I'll tie a clove hitch at the tree so I can get them all the same when the crane op lifts and tightens up.
 
Put splices in the rope, tenex, or whatever. Spliced end attaches to hook, clove hitch to branch.

When I use endless loop slings, I just make a series of girth hitches on the branch end and hook it back to itself. No knot/splice needed to attach to the hook, as it's a big loop anyway.
 
No reason you can't hang 1/2" double braid (appx. llk tensile stgth.) off the hook with a bowline and safety knot. Every pick is not Moby Dick and these are just balancing supports. Been doing this for thirty years or so or whenever double braid was invented. Before that just used downgraded half inch climb line or lowering line (hemp even lol)

You guys get way too anal on this stuff.
 
I use hollow braid the most. Dyneema SK60 and SK75 are my favorite (Amsteel and Amsteel Blue) for 'spider legs'. Balancers are long gone.
I have found the double clove hitch will bind up. I prefer to use the cow hitch with hollow braids.
Lengths will vary from job to job. 20-25' lengths are used the most.
Attached are 4 spider legs in the 25 ton shackle which gets set on the hook. The blue are All Gears SK75 1/2" diameter spider legs at 35' length. The gray is Samson Amsteel (SK60) 1/2" at 20' length.
 

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Are you doing your own splices or do you order like that? Hollow braids and tenex seem like they would be pretty simple to splice. If you could recommend a book for splicing as well.
 
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