Backups in SRT

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I think it will though it may slip a foot or two first.

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Hope your belay person is a good one. I know a guy that like to rip hi nose off, burn the hell out of both hands, and a real nice burn on his neck. This was him training for his footlock using a vt. Some horses you just take to the water, other you need to persuade with a 2 by 4.

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That remains to be seen. It will be my groundie who's never belayed before. When I say belay I mean a top rope style.
 
This system for me has been very smooth and responds well. For my change over (if I dont tie off on the ground with the other end of the line) I have a Link that is connected to my running bowline bight. When I get to that point I lanyard off and connect the link into the Hitch climber, then come down to a spot that I can stand and connect in normally or continue working as is. I have started to get used to just keeping the link tied in as is, at first it was strange.
 
What Holly said...

Clip the top hole, it adds so much more security at no cost.

Another detail, it looks like you're using a figure eight on a bite to attach the biner at the bottom of your ascender. FWIW...ANSI requires cinch-type connections. Plus, using one eliminates a little bit of slop in your system.
 
Tom I did not know about the ANSI rule thanks for that, In full honesty thou I will probly keep with the Eight. I have not had a problem with it ever and Im not doing production work anymore. Although I will have to pass that onto who ever I help out with climbing. Again the top hole is cliped in when ever I do climb that was just for the pic and I was rushing..... no top hole issues here, only bottom hole issues after eating Taco Bell!

" Just a pic " meaning I was not climbing that day.
 
Ok I give, what kind of hitch is it? Keep in mind thats what I was taught was a VT hitch, and it has done a hell of a job for the past two years so eather way the system works great.
 
Looks like a Distel to me. It's an excellent knot.

Holly, I use an XVT... I think. Don't have a pic but I tie a normal VT except I twist the second braid all the way around rather than just a cross, first and third braids are the usual crosses.
It's definitely more reliable than the regular VT, almost never stays compressed.
 
If you have a closeup of both sides I can tellya fer sure. I'm pretty sure the knot in the close cropped image is a Distel. The Mich has two parallel diagonals just above the tender that aren't evident in that shot.
 
Well dont I feel like an a#$... You are right Blinky it is a Distel... Son of a.. all this time I was calling it something diffrent. Well in any case it does work very well for me. I have also used the RADS method and the Frog, but this has been the most smooth and uses the least amount of energy.
 
Ahh it happens the important thing is it worked and I try low before I go. Speaking of hith climbing, I was at a high angle class a year ago and the instructor was teaching the students to climb via two prusick hitches and that was it.... seemed odd to me but I didnt want to step in and say anything seeing how it was not my class. Then later on in the day I had over heared some of the students talking to each other and saying how they will never ascend a rope because it is too hard. I come to find out that this was the only method that they were being shown. I like showing the basics but man, I think I would have followed it up with something better. Anyway.... just thinking out loud. 14hr day at work with no calls will do that I guess
 
I learned on two 5mm prussics with etriers. It's a LOT harder than using ascenders.

I see teaching it both as a fundamental friction knot and as an emergency method when mechs aren't available but I wouldn't spend a lot of time on it. Seems like ascenders would be key in a high angle class... but I guess they use lifts and stuff more than rope.


...It's funny how I'm utterly contradicting myself here.
 
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...It's funny how I'm utterly contradicting myself here.

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I think it's the effect of this thread
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The way I like to approch teaching a high angle rescue class (if say you are holding it for a singal rescue company) would be to have them lay out all of thier rescue gear prior to the class. This way when I go to teach the class it will be on doing a rescue with what they have to work with. Nothing wrong with knowing how to do it with the very min, but lets try to be practical also.
 
I am really impressed by the the different hitch setups you guys are using. I wish I still had the energy to just foot lock each ascent but as time goes by, I have found the need to minimise effort in order to maintain productivity.

What I see in each of these, though, is that the hitch does not assist in the upward movement or body positioning. In a true three-cam set up each component functions to facilitate upward progress and body position and by doing so requires less energy.

Dave
 
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