ABR Rigging Thimbles

My favorite use for the rings came during the ice storm of 14. We were able to set up alot of rigging scenarios remotely and it saved us climbing in treacherous icy conditions. Setting a rigging point remotely and as cleanly as the rings allow is super awesome.
 
how long were the new ABR rings tested in the field for, before introducing them on the Treestuff site?

would be really cool if you could find time to respond to any questions on here (in regards to just the rings).
 
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Was there a technical reason for beefing up the width for bend or just cause more is better?
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Based on feedback from professional splicers and the thought that more is better for bend reduction, wear, heat and most other factors.


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CutHighnLetFly said:
how long were the new ABR rings tested in the field for, before introducing them on the Treestuff site?

would be really cool if you could find time to respond to any questions on here (in regards to just the rings).
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We had versions for times up to just under a year.They were given with the rings marked in place to sustain heavy localized wear with the instruction of using dirty old ropes and to try an make noticeable wear. No wear was found.

6061 aluminum is pretty high quality and has a great track record.

TreeStuffs legendary service guarantees any wear issues will be replaced.


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These things are sweet! I experienced the anodizing wearing slower than the metal underneath, creating a lip or edge at the ends of the groove. We were using the rings very hard, and rotated fresh hardcoat underneath the rope regularly. By the end it looked like a star symbol, and the True Blue was toast. I didn't like the hard coat idea after that experience. Perfect for a largely dirt-free marine environment, but not so much a coastal town, full of sand. . . YMMV.
 
do you have some pictures? It sounds like there is a place for non anodized. I tried hard coating the friction points on the rope runner but found it only added a little bit of life and definitely not worthy of the cost
 
JackPine, welcome to the buzz, you new poster. That's an amazing story.
Jack Pine said:
These things are sweet! I experienced the anodizing wearing slower than the metal underneath, creating a lip or edge at the ends of the groove. We were using the rings very hard, and rotated fresh hardcoat underneath the rope regularly. By the end it looked like a star symbol, and the True Blue was toast. I didn't like the hard coat idea after that experience. Perfect for a largely dirt-free marine environment, but not so much a coastal town, full of sand. . . YMMV.
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Here's my take on the product launch. Any questions just let me know!

Why make your own ring?

We created our own rings because my splicers pointed out a couple safety and functional improvements that could be made over the Antal-made rings. Given the trust that tree climbers put in us... it is obviously our responsibility to put out the best product we can.

Aren't you ripping the X-Man off?

David didn't invent the low friction ring. He was the first person to take an awesome product (the Antal Low Friction Ring) and apply it to tree care. He should be honored and respected for this. Once our ring was ready for market, we offered David a few thousand dollars per year as an annual licensing fee. (We were not obligated to do this, but I felt strongly that it was the right thing to do). He declined our offer. We doubled our offer. David declined again. No drama, just two people trying to live up to their own principles.

I respect David a ton and we get along really well. For my part, we will continue to offer the X-Rings on our website and any future products that Xtreme Arborist comes out with.


Luke
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In what kind of configuration was this ring use?

To me it almost looks like it was in a single ring and main rigging point. Which is strongly talked against. There are some serious grooves there too...that would have happened with arb rings too, if used in that way and that hard.

I could take any piece of gear on my truck and use it incorrectly; too hard/heavy/fast, and destroy it too.
 
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It was used as a re-direct in a rope based brush yarding operation, beyond the scope of the intended design. The wear was not the issue, the hardcoat was. Once the coating wore away a definite lip developed at the end of the groove where the base metal wore away faster than the hardcoat.

Don't get me wrong, I love these rings, but some members had expressed the opinion that the hardcoat would never wear through. It most certainly does.
 
Jack Pine said:
It was used as a re-direct in a rope based brush yarding operation, beyond the scope of the intended design. The wear was not the issue, the hardcoat was. Once the coating wore away a definite lip developed at the end of the groove where the base metal wore away faster than the hardcoat.

Don't get me wrong, I love these rings, but some members had expressed the opinion that the hardcoat would never wear through. It most certainly does.
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Thanks for the extra information.
 
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