TreeLogic
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- Coastal SC
I think the message was received. Nobody's fighting back with us so I kind of feel like we're mobbing this dude. I'm out. I'll post any updates I hear.
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TreeLogic
Branched out member
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- Coastal SC
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Key board mobbing can be very real to some people. Some view the internet as true reality and make wild decisions based off of emotions conjured by the screen. Marshall if you are reading this don't sweat it man. Please join the forum and I guarantee that you will be welcomed and will learn and grow as a person and Arborist. Cheers, I'm out.
Well that's a good thing. He can now rethink his wording and make it a better site. customers were never going to speak up and tell him how inflated it sounded. Tree guys are harsh.
Most of us need to be knocked down a few notches now and then and swallow some humility.
I wasn't going to add to the roasting, but thinking about him threatening my videos and then learning he tried to tarnish Classic Truck mans good work and then seeing how much fun you all were having, I gave in.....
I'll stop now. He is a human being with feelings and I never expected he'd read this or even find treebuzz. But maybe he did if he pulled his bio.
monkeylove
Been here much more than a while
- Location
- Roslyn, Pa.
That's not just tree workers, Toolmakers are exactly the same way. I think any of the skilled trades where men are men probably require the same thick skin.
If they are set on topping no other choice because it's to big, do you ever recommend removal,stump and replant? A new tree wouldn't be an issue of size and the tree wouldn't be hacked all to hell.
james mauldin
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We go through all the standard points with a tree owner whether remove and replace is an option as well as alternatives to "old school" topping such as contour pruning and reductions but I would never cut back to trunks as I was speaking of before. We refer transplanting to a friend that owns a tree farm but I always ask a customer why they want done what their asking for, from cutting limbs to full removals
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- Home of the New Jersey Devils
Message received I'd say. Good for him to take the comments and do something to help himself. I bet if he comes here and jumps in the conversation you would all like him just fine. He was probably having fun with the romanticism of being a tree climber.
I would say he deserved some harsh comments for the portrayal of our industry and for the work he was contracted to do. Now that he has listened to some extent, it's time to lend him a helping hand like someone did for each of us along the way. If he did nothing to change and continued to be defensive and aggressive, then I'd say he made up his mind and isn't worth the energy. If he is taking things to heart then we should nurture that and help him improve. Time will tell.
I'd welcome him to the community here.
That's right as hard as it can be here if ya got attitude, it's the place to learn things right...No BS here, if things are not right you will hear the truth....he can come and learn what will keep him safe...and adopt good work practices and good PRUNING methods....this is a great community....
wyoclimber
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- Cody, WY
Not to be the wet blanket on this redemption party but do you guys really think a little online ribbing from complete strangers has completely changed the trajectory of this guys career? We can always hope, but if guys like this were so easily swayed, our industry wouldn't have the fatality rate that it does. I'd love for this thread to have changed Badeaux's ways but it's going to take a lot more than changing the content of his website to convince me of that.
Completely change the trajectory of his career? No. But maybe it will get him thinking. Rethinking riding cranes all balls to God, thinking about portraying a more professional image, thinking about educating himself so that he doesn't become the punchline of a joke again. If he didn't care about some online ribbing from complete strangers I feel he wouldn't have made the changes he already has. We're not his customers, we don't feed his family or pay his bills, he has no reason to care what we think, but he obviously took notice and cared enough to change something. Nobody wants to be thought of as a joke in the eyes of their peers. I don't know the guy or his reputation, but I like to give people the benefit of the doubt at least once that they can change.
wyoclimber
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- Cody, WY
I am giving him the benefit of the doubt, I'm simply asking for more proof than simply removing some ridiculous and quite frankly, incriminating (in the eyes of OSHA) rhetoric from his web presence. If he came on here and started asking questions I'd be more than happy to give him the opportunity to learn from the people on here, just as I do. But call me cynical, I don't think striving for a more professional look speaks anything about your actual level of competence.
And he is still using misleading language on his website. It still says at the top, first thing, "Certified". Certified for what? He's not ISA Certified, I checked. Simply saying "Certified" is at best disingenuous and at worst an outright lie.
I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, I just require a bit more positive action on his part.
And he is still using misleading language on his website. It still says at the top, first thing, "Certified". Certified for what? He's not ISA Certified, I checked. Simply saying "Certified" is at best disingenuous and at worst an outright lie.
I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, I just require a bit more positive action on his part.
wyoclimber
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- Cody, WY
And saying you work to "ANSI standards" means nothing. They aren't specific to trend work. If you can't reference the specific ANSI standard you are following, do you actually know what they are?
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