Fu*%face Von Clownstick

Daniel said:
It's 1130 pm east coast... he's crushing her in the big battleground states... She was way ahead in early voting in PA, over 71%... now with 76% recoreded he'sa t 51.3%. She's at 47.8...

He just keeps gaining...
He's also got big leads in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Georgia... and leading but much closer in Arizona..

Now it's time for bed.. it looks like he's a sure bet to win.... only hoping this election doesn't turn out like 2020 when we all went to bed thinking he had won, only to wake up and find Biden was president, or the time we went to bed thinking Kerry was president, only to wake up and find out that Bush had won...

She was a terrible candidate.. a total embarresment. Don't you rememeber after Biden picked her to be his VP, that we all thought that was his plan to make himself un-impeachable, becasue no one would ever consider putting her in the oval office... ANd the dems should be ashamed that the DNC subverted the democratic process by keeping Biden out there until it was too late to have a primary. They HAD TO KNOW that he is unfit for office. They have become the party of sleeze... I AM so glad that this atrocious candidate from a reprehesible party is not going to be president. I find her repulsive and wouldn't want to listen to that cackle for another 4 years....

I voted for Jill Stein
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couple responses to comments on the above that was posted on FB

given a choice between that and Kamala starting WW3, I'll take the egomaniac behind door number 2. Jan 6 wasn't a threat to democracy... A bunch of right wing gun nuts that forgot to bring their guns to overthrow the government????? A governement (Pelosi) that called off the national guard and used bike racks as baracades , then opened the doors and invited all these people in for a tour. That's not a threat... that's nothing compared to active censorship, a heinous violation of the fist ammendment, that the the Biden administration spent millions of dollars on, the poliitcal prosecutions Biden's DOJ pursued, and perhaps most importantly the active supression of the people's will in picking a prsidential candidate... The DNC knew Biden's mind was gone and planned to leave him out there until it was too late to run a primary. Kamala has never won a single vote in a primary. She was installed. That's not democracy. And if it was democracy it would have been Bernie V Trump in 2016 and 2020. The difference between you and me is that what you call news, I call propaganda. Love you though and want to see your smiling face. We can't count on anyone to save us. That's up to all of us by being the best most loving people we can be... Let go of fear. Step into it with love.



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or think of it this way.... given it looks like a huge landslide... that's how bad the democratic candidate was... how bad did she have to be to lose like that to a candidate like Trump? REALLY BAD..... HORRENDOUS.... If that's the best the democrats had to offer.. THEY SUCK.... and anyone that thinks they don't, is living in a dream world.


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I don't want to pick the lesser of two evils... I don't vote for evil... and trump is evil.. anyone that thinks he is the saviour must have slept through the 4 years he let Julian Assange rot in prison. He lost me at family separation... NO WAY.. I swore I wouold never vote for him and I have found when I break those promises to myself, I end up regretting it... all the lies etc... That said, the war mongers that control the dems would be happy to start WW3.. so I feel relieved that Trump won. But you're foolish if you think he's going to be the saviour.... NOw let's just see if he lives to Jan 20. adn we'll see if he puts Bobby Kennedy in a position to make meaningful change. My prediction is that he just used Kennedy to get elected and will cut him loose like he did last time.
 
It's reassuring to me to see that he only got about the same number of votes as he did in the last run. He hasn't earned any new voters, but rather the Dems just keep getting worse, and 15 million people let them know that; just couldn't be bothered to vote for someone that lame. I didn't vote for Biden, and this time I voted Oceans, which didn't matter because I live in CA. I stopped voting blue 18 years ago, and it's looking like I will probably never vote for a major party candidate. I do feel like voting should be mandatory. I know there will be plenty of folks that didn't vote, and will complain about trump.
 
Matias said:
I know there will be plenty of folks that didn't vote, and will complain about trump.
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True, the Democrats seriously dropped the ball. But all these Liberals who withheld a vote or voted independent over Gaza, or because Harris was a woman, whatever, well, that was basically a vote for Trump whether they want to admit it or not. I don't think it was important whether we liked Harris or totally agreed with her, the vital thing was to stop Trump and this drift towards facism, and we failed. If we thought things were bad his first administration, that was nothing compared to what is coming. And an awful lot of the idiots that voted for him are going to deeply regret it before this next four years is done. They stand to loose as much as anyone else and they made the mistake of believing he gives a shit about them and the country.
 
Burrapeg said:
True, the Democrats seriously dropped the ball. But all these Liberals who withheld a vote or voted independent over Gaza, or because Harris was a woman, whatever, well, that was basically a vote for Trump whether they want to admit it or not. I don't think it was important whether we liked Harris or totally agreed with her, the vital thing was to stop Trump and this drift towards facism, and we failed. If we thought things were bad his first administration, that was nothing compared to what is coming. And an awful lot of the idiots that voted for him are going to deeply regret it before this next four years is done. They stand to loose as much as anyone else and they made the mistake of believing he gives a shit about them and the country.
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I totally agree with you, but all the third party votes put together wouldn't have won her the election, and you can't make idiots do something when they are too dumb to realize the truth in what you're saying. We need:
A. Fractional representation &
B. Mandatory voting
C. A secure app to vote instantly and remotely

I don't care how much you don't think it matters, you should have to take the 3 minutes to login and fucking vote for somebody.
 
Burrapeg said:
True, the Democrats seriously dropped the ball. But all these Liberals who withheld a vote or voted independent over Gaza, or because Harris was a woman, whatever, well, that was basically a vote for Trump whether they want to admit it or not. I don't think it was important whether we liked Harris or totally agreed with her, the vital thing was to stop Trump and this drift towards facism, and we failed. If we thought things were bad his first administration, that was nothing compared to what is coming. And an awful lot of the idiots that voted for him are going to deeply regret it before this next four years is done. They stand to loose as much as anyone else and they made the mistake of believing he gives a shit about them and the country.
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I see your points but there also is gerrymandering and the electoral college.
I just looked for the stats and essentially just a little over the population of King County voted in the entire state!
I will say I didn’t vote for Trump, but with the electoral college my vote for Harris, abstain, or third party wouldn’t have mattered much.
Shit will get wild, and the vp is scarier yet.
 
Matias said:
Well based on the vote count, you wasted your money, because he didn't get any more votes than last time. As they say, a fool and his money...
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Regardless of the vote count compared to 2020 (btw, there was actually more votes), there was more Trump support in many northern Massachusetts counties vs. 2020, a significant number people commute from southern NH to Mass.
It wasn't much money at all, only time.
I cannot see a reason vote for a third party candidate. I know there is the principal of it, also building of the voting base, to gain momentum in the hopes it will catch on more yearly.

2020 in Nashua, NH, a Trump supporter was just watching the ballots been counted by 4 people, (3 were known democrats, one was a known republican), then shortly after the counting started he was asked to leave the room and if he didn't he would be arrested. He was allowed to be in the hallway, just not the room of counting.
 
Stumpsprouts said:
Don’t give the government any more powers over you.
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Agreed. There's a paradox in big government. People want to give the gov't control over every aspect of our lives when it's their person in power but don't stop consider, what happens when the other party has that power? Trump getting elected isn't a crisis if we hadn't granted the gov't so much control over our lives to begin with.

Santa Claus doesn't live in Washington, a gov't big enough to give you everything you want is powerful enough to take everything you have.
 
Burrapeg said:
True, the Democrats seriously dropped the ball. But all these Liberals who withheld a vote or voted independent over Gaza, or because Harris was a woman, whatever, well, that was basically a vote for Trump whether they want to admit it or not. I don't think it was important whether we liked Harris or totally agreed with her, the vital thing was to stop Trump and this drift towards facism, and we failed. If we thought things were bad his first administration, that was nothing compared to what is coming. And an awful lot of the idiots that voted for him are going to deeply regret it before this next four years is done. They stand to loose as much as anyone else and they made the mistake of believing he gives a shit about them and the country.
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DRIFT TOWARD Fascism? Between the professional, federally weaponized fascism of Obama and Biden, Trump's "fascist" moves are hardly worth noting.

Let me break this down using the classic scholarly definitions of fascist governmental tendencies:

Key Indicators to Analyze:
1. State control of information/media
2. Merger of state and corporate power
3. Use of government agencies against political opponents
4. Suppression of opposition
5. Executive overreach
6. Forceful suppression of criticism

Obama Administration Actions:
- Operation Choke Point targeting legal businesses
- Expansion of surveillance programs
- IRS targeting conservative groups
- Use of Espionage Act against whistleblowers
- Social media coordination for content control

Trump Administration Actions:
- Used federal forces in civil unrest situations (Portland/DC)
- Verbally encouraged peaceful efforts to influence election certification

Biden Administration Actions:
- Direct coordination with tech companies on content (aka Government Censorship of the people)
- Labeling parents at school boards as potential terrorists
- Weaponization of federal agencies against opponents
- Pressuring banks on customer political views
- Executive orders bypassing Congress

Comparative Analysis:
- All three administrations showed concerning overreach
- Obama established many surveillance precedents
- Trump attempted more direct executive control
- Biden expanded government-corporate coordination
- Obama and Biden used federal agencies against opponents
 
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