DMM throw hook.

[Santiago Casanova]

Why is it that sometimes my notifications get lost in translation... I should be getting notifications anyway as I have commented and am "watching" this thread, but even with the addition of you tagging me I got no notification for some reason. Now I stumble onto 5 pages that I am behind on.

Anyway, sorry.

I do use the Bulldog Bone style BOLA with the captain on the secondary side of my 7/16 KM III 2 in 1 lanyard. I have not tried other lines as this has been very suitable for my application. The BOLA is extremely capable and suited for the Captain Hook and how I use it. I should probably try some other lines too, but I can't get passed the, "if it ain't broke don't fix it."


Other rambling:

I have my Captain 'permanently' attached to the secondary side of my lanyard. There have been a handful of circumstances where I would prefer a carabiner termination rather than the hook, but I can always throw a A.Butterfly or Marlin Spike into my lanyard short of the hook and put a carabiner there if I need it as a second traditional lanyard.

Also you can plan for the climb at hand and set yourself up without the hook, 2 separate lanyards, or hook on a separate system altogether, etc. I find that in carrying the hook with me on "every" climb it is not sitting idle. I use it all the time. Like Moss, I use it as a third work positioning tool. 1. I have my primary climbing line 2. I'm bucked in at the branch I'm working 3. I have my Captain at a short arms reach hooked to give me that apposing positioning point. Sometimes even when you are tied in twice it is convenient to have that third arm to stable yourself for a cut. I use it to advance myself out on a limbwalk or up a second lead in a tree, I use it to free hangers that are out of reach, retrieve ropes that are out of reach (also retrieving natural redirects...let me know if you aren't sure what I mean by this 'cause this is very handy.), I've even lowered my saw down for refueling as a quick bridge to the groundie. I actually rarely use it for traversing into other trees. I definitely use it for it's intended purpose I am just emphasizing the breadth of uses it has and other reasons to carry it.

I understand why people wouldn't want to bring it on every climb and to simplify and lighten their load, so i'm not saying this is the way to go. I am just sharing my experience and how this system has been working for me. I like it.

I'm HOOKED.

I totally agree about the third tie in. I love my 60' double ended lanyard.

 

[moss]

Why is it that sometimes my notifications get lost in translation... I should be getting notifications anyway as I have commented and am "watching" this thread, but even with the addition of you tagging me I got no notification for some reason. Now I stumble onto 5 pages that I am behind on.

Anyway, sorry.

I do use the Bulldog Bone style BOLA with the captain on the secondary side of my 7/16 KM III 2 in 1 lanyard. I have not tried other lines as this has been very suitable for my application. The BOLA is extremely capable and suited for the Captain Hook and how I use it. I should probably try some other lines too, but I can't get passed the, "if it ain't broke don't fix it."


Other rambling:

I have my Captain 'permanently' attached to the secondary side of my lanyard. There have been a handful of circumstances where I would prefer a carabiner termination rather than the hook, but I can always throw a A.Butterfly or Marlin Spike into my lanyard short of the hook and put a carabiner there if I need it as a second traditional lanyard.

Also you can plan for the climb at hand and set yourself up without the hook, 2 separate lanyards, or hook on a separate system altogether, etc. I find that in carrying the hook with me on "every" climb it is not sitting idle. I use it all the time. Like Moss, I use it as a third work positioning tool. 1. I have my primary climbing line 2. I'm bucked in at the branch I'm working 3. I have my Captain at a short arms reach hooked to give me that apposing positioning point. Sometimes even when you are tied in twice it is convenient to have that third arm to stable yourself for a cut. I use it to advance myself out on a limbwalk or up a second lead in a tree, I use it to free hangers that are out of reach, retrieve ropes that are out of reach (also retrieving natural redirects...let me know if you aren't sure what I mean by this 'cause this is very handy.), I've even lowered my saw down for refueling as a quick bridge to the groundie. I actually rarely use it for traversing into other trees. I definitely use it for it's intended purpose I am just emphasizing the breadth of uses it has and other reasons to carry it.

I understand why people wouldn't want to bring it on every climb and to simplify and lighten their load, so i'm not saying this is the way to go. I am just sharing my experience and how this system has been working for me. I like it.

I'm HOOKED.

Want to quadruple like this. Once you get over carrying it on your harness, you keep finding new uses for it.

 

[FreeFallin]

So what bag is everyone using?

Right now my hook is on the back end of my 25' lanyard and the rope is loose coiled on a 4 point scuba clip. This works but gets messy when I am feeding rope at both ends.

I am eyeballing the magnetic lanyard bag from sherrilstuff, but I am really finding that I want a 25' lanyard, AND I want more rope on the hook to throw with.

So I guess I need a smallish lanyard bag, and a hook bag that will hold 50 feet or so. Recommendations?

 

[theatertech87]

So what bag is everyone using?

Right now my hook is on the back end of my 25' lanyard and the rope is loose coiled on a 4 point scuba clip. This works but gets messy when I am feeding rope at both ends.

I am eyeballing the magnetic lanyard bag from sherrilstuff, but I am really finding that I want a 25' lanyard, AND I want more rope on the hook to throw with.

So I guess I need a smallish lanyard bag, and a hook bag that will hold 50 feet or so. Recommendations?

For what it's worth the small dmm gear bad that comes with the kit is imho too small to be used effectively

 

[Tuebor]

If I remember, some people got theirs with the 4 litre DMM bag, but most got the 6 litre bag. I tried the 4L bag for awhile but it was too tight for 50' of cord. The 6L seems just right.

 

[ghostice]

View attachment 49330 Someone else in this thread suggested using a quickdraw dog bone. I use either my climb line or lanyard so they connect easily to it, and it doesn't interfere with the Hook.

Brocky, Sorry if redundant - Petzl used to have rubber retainers for their slings - they're really nifty if you wanted to stiffen up the connection to the Captain
Cheers

 

[Brocky]

Thanks for the suggestion @ghostice I think I left off the retainer so that the Hook would move freely or maybe it just wouldn't fit over the shackle. The Petzl retainer is very tight.

 

[ClimbMIT]

I climb lots of Live Oaks here in Southern Louisiana. Lately I have started deploying a secondary SRT line for work positioning. Problem with that is when the canopy spread is so massive I will continue to have to reset the secondary line. Thinking the Captain could possibly speed up the process?


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[moss]

I climb lots of Live Oaks here in Southern Louisiana. Lately I have started deploying a secondary SRT line for work positioning. Problem with that is when the canopy spread is so massive I will continue to have to reset the secondary line. Thinking the Captain could possibly speed up the process?


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Yep!

 

[moss]

Here is another video featuring my new lanyard/hook combo and a compact mechanical advantage set-up which is easy to deploy. The video shows a recreational climb and movement among 3 White Oaks in a grove, all old hat for seasoned climbers but it was fun to swim in gravity in the forest for a couple hours.

I'm planning another climb to experiment with using the hook for movement inside a wide spreading canopy like a lot of working climbers have mentioned. Getting out to the tips of branches isn't something I practice a lot as a recreational climber but I'm interesting in exploring the other uses working climbers have mentioned.

Nice first run! Favorite pat of the video is the warm drink at the end.

Full disclosure, I sewed the eye in the PMI EZ Bend 10mm Hook line Bob Bob is using. From my experience sewing eyes in various cordage, including the stock Hook line Reep Schnur 10mm, the 10mm EZ Bend is super sturdy/strong stuff, I would go anywhere in the trees on it. The PMI has a tight construction, tough to sew but the resulting eye is bomber. From the video it looks like it performed very well. Looked excellent for twisting the line to change the Hook orientation and throwing looked great in the video.

What do you think of the EZ Bend performance Bob Bob?

 

[Burrapeg]

. . . I'm currently coiling my set-up but a bag might save some time. Could the New Tribe Open Climbing Bucket be an option? If you are leaving a portion of the line out as a quick access lanyard, a smaller bag may work.

I have only gotten to use my hook a couple times so far, with this constant rain we are having up here this Fall/Winter, and I only have the 30 feet or so of line on it that comes on the longer CE lanyard, but I am using the neat bag that comes with the NT Yellow Jacket saddle. I was leaving out maybe four feet or so of the lanyard end, with the rest of the line in the bag and the hook hanging just outside the bag. I think the bag would hold somewhat more line too.

 

[Tuebor]

Is the Yellow Jacket bag a ditty sack with a draw cord top? I've seen the saddle but not the bag.

Yes, it does have a drawstring top. It is not as deep as the bucket, but it is wider and probably has slightly more volume because it has a circular profile with a flat bottom, whereas the climbing bucket has an oval cross section and a rounded bottom. I don't think the climbing bucket is large enough. The Yellow Jacket bag has a loop in the bottom that you could tie the end of your line to, but it doesn't have a belt attachment like the bucket: The bucket doesn't have the loop in the bottom. The NT Easy Rigger Saddle Bag looks like the climbing bucket with the addition of the drawstring top. Might be your best bet. New Tribe also sells the camo version of the Yellow Jacket bag for their Aero Hunter saddle.

 

[Tuebor]

Bucket on left, YJ bag on right.

 

[Burrapeg]

Is the Yellow Jacket bag a ditty sack with a draw cord top? I've seen the saddle but not the bag.

Yeah, draw string top. The Yellow Jacket is a neat saddle for rec climbing if you have to hike any distance. It is amazingly compact for such a comfortable saddle and wads up into that bag with some room to spare for other small stuff. Not such a good professional saddle I should guess, with no provision for a rope bridge and other refinements. But it has the side D's and loops for gear. Really comfortable somehow too, even though it has no thick padding.

 

[Tuebor]

I'll sell you my Aero Hunter. It's the older version which has leg loops instead of a seat, rigging plates and a rope bridge like the Onyx, and soft D-rings like the Yellow Jacket.

 

[colb]

I climb lots of Live Oaks here in Southern Louisiana. Lately I have started deploying a secondary SRT line for work positioning. Problem with that is when the canopy spread is so massive I will continue to have to reset the secondary line. Thinking the Captain could possibly speed up the process?


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I climb live oaks regularly too. It's indispensable in them - so many throw targets and the wood is stronger in smaller diameter compared to other species. Only problem is that a single base-tied 200' srt line with too many redirects is hard to pull out of the tree due to the crazy thick bark, which limits the hook a bit if you need to do a whole crown reduction. Otherwise it's perfect.

 

[rope-a-dope]

Easy rigger bag is perfect. It fits 40 feet of pink husky, a cinch, micro pulley, and the hook with spare room. I was using a little line mug, too small. Plus my favorite part is the webbing handle is detachable on the side with Velcro and a snap so it can be strapped to my leg loop or belt without flopping.

 

[colb]

4th of July came early:



Thanks for the tree-o-cache biner, @bonner1040 !

 

[Acerxharlowii]

So what bag is everyone using?

Right now my hook is on the back end of my 25' lanyard and the rope is loose coiled on a 4 point scuba clip. This works but gets messy when I am feeding rope at both ends.

I am eyeballing the magnetic lanyard bag from sherrilstuff, but I am really finding that I want a 25' lanyard, AND I want more rope on the hook to throw with.

So I guess I need a smallish lanyard bag, and a hook bag that will hold 50 feet or so. Recommendations?

 

[Acerxharlowii]

These are back in stock with ts