Why do you like the thinner ropes?

Isn't it something where on a regular biner, the Munter can spin around and not work as desired/expected?
Don't ask me to elaborate, that's all I remember. ;-)
 
That seemed pretty petulant Tom, why not just answer a question?

My guess is that the munter won't reverse as nicely on a non HMS carabiner. If used for descent only, that shouldn't matter.

Please do enlighten us on your reasoning. I seriously value your expertise, and boycott Facebook so won't be watching the linked video
 
Petulant is a good term. Grouchy came to my mind first.

Why not take a moment and invest in your own education? Along the way there is so much more to be gained. Is it my responsibility to be The Answer Guy?

I understand the FB issues but they don't bother me. Boogiemen don't scare me.There are plenty of other sources for information. My point with making that post was that it only took me three words and about two minutes to have an answer that is available to everyone.

My non-classroom education started with hands-on working for Marv, Dad added a lot and Boy Scouts too. In order to learn more I had to buy books and then read them with a highlighter in hand. Attending conferences and workshops helped a lot too.

My expectation is that people do some self-education. How else do people think that arborists are going to be looked upon as professionals?
 
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Tongue in cheek here- so you read what someone else wrote down and made shareable? How is you typing it and sharing on this forum different? Other than you being a live, interactive source of knowledge, which is of higher value than just a book. Some never had the chance to connect with too arborists, but have the opportunity to connect with you here.
 
I think that I make myself available. My first comment on the munter was 3/29/05. There are three pages of links to threads that I used the word 'munter'

There is a saying: There are few things that can be retained and given away.

Knowledge is one of them. giving away the sources of what I know fits. What's the other saying about teaching a person to fish???

While someone goes down the rabbit hole there will be a lot more learned. Invest in yourself you're worth it.

A big value of books is that they go through a review. Writers will find people to read their manuscript and find things to ad or correct. When Jeff Jepson had The Tree Climbers Companion ready for printing he sent copies out for proofreading. He didn't just send them to arborists. He chose a couple of people that knew little about treework. They gave him good suggestions about how to say things not so much on what was said. As readers we gain a lot from that help.
 
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Hey, all, I'm kind of a noob or at least an amateur / weekend warrior(I've done some DdRT with Blake's Hitch and more recently some SRT with Unicender and Hitch Hiker II ... for which I bought a hank of Yale Blaze) ... my question is, I see in reading here that it seems like most of you folks prefer thinner ropes for SRT. Having handled Yale Blaze and the heavier Yale XTC Fire, I find that I prefer the heavier/thicker rope just because it feels nicer in the hands to me, and I like the way a Prusik loop grabs the larger-diameter rope.

Why do you folks seem to prefer the thinner lines? Is it mostly a matter of weight, or limberness...or what?

Thanks in advance for any replies. And sorry if this is kind of a noobie question.

Jeff
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I feel the hitches grab and release better on thinner lines. They run so smooth and with the right hitch tending is like butter. Effortless.
 
Tom, on the rope elasticity topic, when I was testing TIP friction I ran some 9/16 (?) stable braid and found the rope was mush when flaked, still kind of mushy laid straight and the "stretched" a ton getting tight during the test at which point it cabled up into a very hard cylindrical shape. This is with 200 to 300 lbs load. Point being, other ropes had tighter construction and didn't have this big initial mushiness take-up. So, at climber weight range there might be some effects and non-linearity going on. Climber weight is massively smaller than breaking or max allowed load figures. The researcher in me suggested trying to measure elasticities but my gumption got up and left shortly before/during/after the thought wafted by.

Maybe next winter in cabin-bound silly season I'll take a kick at the cat.
 
I like teaching newer people about elongation and memory by showing the difference between my canopy anchored line and retrieval leg once I’ve tested the anchor. A gentle pull produces little to no movement on the climb side, whereas the retrieval leg can drop a foot without the anchor moving. If I can’t see my anchor, I’ll use this to my advantage when installing my climbing device or removing the rope. Just gently pull on both and see which one stretches easily- that’s the retrieval leg.
 
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