Who uses Ice for split-tails - how do you like it?

I was thinking that Ice is easier to deal with than Beeline. Either require locked brumel splicing, but the core of the Beeline is more delicate and needs some form of protection, and the cover has to be dealt with. The Ice only requires a tail-tucked locked brumel - done.

Or, of course either can be tied instead of spliced and all that goes away. I have a short piece of Ice that I'm gonna play with a bit and see how I like it.
 
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Ive never been a big fan of ice. I've always had a hard time getting it to bite consistently with a vt knot

I love beeline 10mm grizzly spliced. The best for my blue moon/ vt knot.

I use hrc as well, very nice stuff. I use it in the winter. My hrc eye n eye is longer then most so I take an extra wrap on it so my hands have more to grab on to and my gloves don't get torn up.
 
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i like bee-line and hrc more, but ice is still good. like blinky, i like it when im in a pine or something with a lot of pitch because it still moves "fairly" easy
 
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I mad an ice for a split tail to use with my P-Ivy and it tends to lock up bad so I made an eye to eye and that works great.
 
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Deak,

The eye to eye you made, that was Ice?

If so, why did it work so much better as an eye to eye?
 
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Thank you Dan well said.
Yes they share the load and because the Ice is so malleable (i think that is the right word) it binds easier and rolls more often so make sure you use an overhand for safety. In the use as a split tail.
 
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I'm still not understanding. The tails share the load equally if the ends are tied to the biner, or if they are connected to the biner via spliced eyes.
 
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Good stuff, pretty much like Tenex. I like the smooth action.

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Yeah, except for the melting point LOL!

-Tom

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It's lower than ice but have you ever melted one? It's all I used for about a year and I got some glazing sometimes but never anything that made me feel unsafe.

I think that since the hi mods with technora jackets came out we've downgraded some tried and true materials when they're still as good as they ever were.
...with that said, I use HRC and Icetail.
 
I had a relatively new tenex eye to eye and melted it beyond what I feel is safe on one fast descent. I'll post a pic one of these days. I am pretty sure that the melting point is waaaaay lower than icetail, but I don't have the numbers. I'm bad with numbers anyway.

-Tom
 
Yep, waaay lower if I recall correctly, about half. And now that I think about it, I went through about one split-tail every month or so. I'm still using the first HRC tail I ever made and that was back at TCIA Providence.
 
I've been climbing on PI and ice (vt knot) since january. I love it. Lasts a lot longer than 10mm bee line and is practically impossible to burn. I worked one week in some pines and was decending 80-90 ft on ice (sometimes rather quick and it got hot) but never burned just pressed the fibers together ,my line took a worse beating than my hitch did! The only small kink to ice is it sometimes will grab when you are almost to a stop whichis not really that big of a deal
 
Let us not forget as we discuss temperatures that if the hitch is getting hot enough to melt polyester, our ropes are polyester and they're getting hot too.

Probably not so much of a problem when you're moving, but what happens when that hitch is near the melting point of polyester and you stop?

A buddy has glazed several ropes. That's an indication that not only is the friction device, be it mechanical or 'software', getting hot, but it's transferring the heat to the rope while it is in motion.

The point? We may have a high temp split-tail, but we still have a polyester rope and heat does transfer to it, even when we are in motion. Imagine the heat build up at a specific point on the rope when we stop.
 
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