Matias
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My coworker hates them. He only puts them on to climb while he's waiting for the custom Wesco boots he ordered
What's your favorite BOOTS ?
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Matias
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I actually love my HAIX. I have owned a wiiiiiiiiiide range of boots, and they are the most comfortable boots I have ever had. I also have very wide feet, so it limits my options a bit. I also need a boots that will accept custom insoles nicely, as I have ridiculously high arches. I have had Danners that were great, Thorogoods that are pretty crappy overall, Keens that fell apart way too fast just doing groundwork. I would love to get a $30 pair of boots that I could feel good about, but I have a lot of questions that I can't get answers to, like what are the working conditions like for the people who make those boots. I simply refuse to support slavers, or the companies that buy from slavers. This choice has not been a cheap one to stand behind, but it is an important one to me.
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My only complaint with the airstreams is they are bulky and can get jammed up in tight crotches pretty often.
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@Matias
I'm putting my eyes on Carolina boots made in U.S.A with U.S union parts... ( basically imported parts like tanned & treated hides possibly ... then assembled in U.S. or vice versa )
I've tried some of their boots at some retail stores and on a box its says Made in Vietnam ...so I doubt know what's the real story... lol )
They have in various sizes and width so I can find my perfect fit in a way. As I looked bottom of the sole I can see it is not fully sawn all the way around like it used to be . I guess if I sent them to Re-sole in a future I can get it fully sawn and stitched up all the way around. Compared with Thorogoods Carolina boots are almost equivalent or bit lesser quality.
My question to you is Do you consider buying this Catolina boots violates your solidly layed out against slavery rules ? If so plz let me know. Because I'm also against it just as well as you are. I'm also seeing modern day slavaries in Fast food chains , Ventute capitalist investment tech companies Rideshare services such as UBER / Lyft , UBER eat, doordash food delivery services and such. And it is such a eye sore more than seeing homeless people laying down on some streets. Why ? Those people who works under those services are functional workers at this moment . But the those venture capitalists investment tech companies services are literally enslaving them to death and spitting them out to the streets after the harassments and harsh disciplinary treatments and ruining them . Basically , they are promoting poor people into much closer to be homeless . Its disgusting to know this kind of activities are really happening on U.S. soil.
Simply I'm completely against bullies taking full advantages over weaks. And obviously I'm take side of good under dogs.
Let us know your take on that issue as well .
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Stumpsprouts
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You're getting into the debate about the effects of globalism and capitalism and I don't think you really want to go there. It never seems to end productively.
Let's just settle for 'you get what you pay for'. And also 'vote with your wallet.'
Pinhead Squirrel
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Hey @Pinhead Squirrel, FWIW, I have a pair of made in USA Carolina engineer boots that are supremely comfortable. Not for tree work, but I love them. Had them for 8 or 9 years.
Because of those boots, I ordered a pair of their loggers in the same size. Unfortunately, the wide width wasn't wide enough and they ran a tad smaller as well. I returned those. The next size I might have tried wasn't available, so I went another direction.
Because of those boots, I ordered a pair of their loggers in the same size. Unfortunately, the wide width wasn't wide enough and they ran a tad smaller as well. I returned those. The next size I might have tried wasn't available, so I went another direction.
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I had the Carolina loggers a while back. They were very stiff and ended up giving me lots of callouses, but the stiffness paid off in their durability. I got a whole year out of em which is better than average in the mountains.
Pinhead Squirrel
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@Dan Cobb
You are very lucky.
Those are domestic made Carolina Engneer boots. I don't know you can still get those with Made in U.S.A . versions.
Back in a day, steam engine ship boiler room sailors, railways steam engine train engineers wore those. Well, now a days for some reasons Motorcyclists wear them too. I myself had similar boots back in a days . But that was cheap Harley Davidson biker boots.
Very sleek designs, elegant silhouette, can wear them anywhere !
-Engineer boots were originally meant as protective gear for firemen working on steam railway engines (i.e. "engineers"), as their minimal stitching and pull-on design made them ideal for working in conditions with hot coals, embers, and sharp edges.
Carolina boots carries wider size for your feet. They regular width called D then to E to EE I think. Contact your local boots retailers so they can order them for you ! But remember make sure measure your feet with your Socks on !
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Pinhead Squirrel
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@Stumpsprouts
Yeah, those type work boots are very stiff at first. Thick and very tough. If you soak Sno- seal very deep into the leathers... Then
Man ! Its invincible !
What I usually do is put boiling hot water into the boots till above the ankle levels. Hot water Soften the leathers faster . Then pour all of them out. While it's still warm in a touch you wear thick socks then put your feet in them . Walk around a bit then dry them half way in a shade . No direct sun light.
repeat the same process.
Little by little your boots start to take a shape of your foot shapes to be exact match.
It's called
"breaking in process " they says.
I personally won't pour a boiling hot water tho .
Since there are many glued parts in leather boots and steel nails . Heat isn't really neccessary.
So I would pour just luke warm water and do the same process.
Luke warm like hot summer sun garden hose Luke warm water ... Well it's hot water you might call it ... LoL
You might be worried that those steel nails with in a leather might get rusted with in a boots. Well, it does a little but since steel nails with in a leather is so air tight so only the surface of the nails gets rusted as in film form levels and won't really rusted out. Actually the rust would hold sheets of leathers together better I believe.
Remember to rust the steels you do need oxygen. Thus, oxidated means rusted. But with out oxygen such as nails nailed down in a leather wont really rust all the way.
After that process , what I would do is put store bought leather conditioners like all over especially inside of the boots and out . Soak them as much as you can . Repeat 3 times or so .
Then I would dub a Lanolin oil , neatsfoot oil and bees wax melted together in a pan over small flames on stove top .bees wax gives consistency. So add bees wax little by little then off from the heat and see the consistency . You want like can of shoe cream consistency . Or like Vaseline wax in a jar consistency with all that ingredients together .
Then dub the hot oils all over the leather part out side part leathers. You can do same with Sno- Seals ( make sure to use hair dryer to melt the wax soak into the leather ) then your boots are ready for the action.
In service, many soldiers jumps into hot shower with brand new boots which they've just got to break in leathers to fit thier boots to thier feet. If you don't then boots camp gonna be hell ... its basically same concept. Maybe next time you get a leather boots you do this process then you might not going to have same painful experiences but a pleasure of wearing one of a kind real your very own leather boots !!
You gonna love the way you look ... I guarantee it
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Matias
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@Pinhead Squirrel
I don't always have my ideal choices available to be made, and I haven't researched Carolina Boots enough to know if they've gotten as bad as Redwing for example, with regards to their supply chain. I only speak disparagingly of them because my coworker hates them. The logger style of boot tends to be built on a narrower last than a more standard style of boot, and he uses them almost exclusively for spurring.
I got my HAIX for $350, and they can be gotten for even less under the right circumstances. They're made in Europe, and though I would love to get some good US made boots, but I can't yet swing the $650 for the custom made stuff I want to get with various add ons like double shanks and in my width. I am looking at Wesco, JK boots, or White's for US made 16" loggers, and will get some when the money's there.
Meantime, my Haix are holding up super well after a year of hard work in the mountains, and I would buy another pair for non spur work, though they're pretty comfy for a few hours on hooks. I am big on safety gear and like the cut pro; it's a significant factor as I have seen some old pros nearly cut their feet, and have come close myself.
I would tend to agree with @Stumpsprouts . As a general rule, you get what you pay for, but more expensive isn't always better. Samson makes some awesome ropes that are very modestly priced, and I have some ropes that cost 3x more, but wouldn't do what that cheaper rope does. The expensive ropes have specific purposes at which they excel, and that's why I have them, but they're not so great for everything.
With all that said, I would highly doing some reading on various boot construction methods. I am partial to stitch down leather boots
I don't always have my ideal choices available to be made, and I haven't researched Carolina Boots enough to know if they've gotten as bad as Redwing for example, with regards to their supply chain. I only speak disparagingly of them because my coworker hates them. The logger style of boot tends to be built on a narrower last than a more standard style of boot, and he uses them almost exclusively for spurring.
I got my HAIX for $350, and they can be gotten for even less under the right circumstances. They're made in Europe, and though I would love to get some good US made boots, but I can't yet swing the $650 for the custom made stuff I want to get with various add ons like double shanks and in my width. I am looking at Wesco, JK boots, or White's for US made 16" loggers, and will get some when the money's there.
Meantime, my Haix are holding up super well after a year of hard work in the mountains, and I would buy another pair for non spur work, though they're pretty comfy for a few hours on hooks. I am big on safety gear and like the cut pro; it's a significant factor as I have seen some old pros nearly cut their feet, and have come close myself.
I would tend to agree with @Stumpsprouts . As a general rule, you get what you pay for, but more expensive isn't always better. Samson makes some awesome ropes that are very modestly priced, and I have some ropes that cost 3x more, but wouldn't do what that cheaper rope does. The expensive ropes have specific purposes at which they excel, and that's why I have them, but they're not so great for everything.
With all that said, I would highly doing some reading on various boot construction methods. I am partial to stitch down leather boots
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@Matias
If you think Redwings are bad then I can't say anything about Carolina shoe... LoL
Why I love Carolina Boots is just only one reasons.. Critic's are all saying Carolina Boots sucks than Ariat boots , Corcoran, Red wings ... Brah brah brah .. .with many legit points with it.
But to me ...
it's in the Rivet .
That one rivets changes the longevity of that boots tremendously. Any other work boots companies does not . ( Except Northern Star Gravel gear Work boots with slavery conditions boots , Because it's an complete carbon copy of Carolina Boots. I would never go for that Douchebagary company's boots I'm sure. )
Now, some people might point out why don't you just put those rivet all by yourself ?
Well , They are totally right about that .
I do know & how to install them by myself as well. It's nothing to it .
But if I can buy with it already installed then I would chose that shoe makers company shoes than any other companies that doesn't.
Because I do know that it needs to be there .
I work .
& I need a pair of work boots.
A good pair of real work boots .
And I do respect whoever came up with it . Who does know such a small detail changes everything ...
I don't know when or whom but a He or she must have thought for the users and actualy think thru it...
with in a such a chaotic conditions at work shop or capitalisms or whatever it might be ....
That person thought for the real users . An Real damn good pair of work boots for real workers with reasonable price tag
There is an old saying ...
" Put yourself in someone's shoes... "
I think Carolina Shoe did just that and it's out shines to me than any another shoe companies out there even now ...
Rivet !!!
Child labor, Slavery does still exists here today....
Those Japanese car companies are so Evil... such a Sneaky lying mofos ... Thanks God We dropped Two big ones over Hiroshima & Nagasaki ....
Child workers found throughout Hyundai-Kia supply chain in Alabama
A Reuters investigation found child workers throughout Hyundai and Kia's supply chain in Alabama. State and federal authorities are probing their suppliers.
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A dead-end, minimum/ low wage job is nothing compared to modern slavery.
Modern slavery is like old slavery.
Modern slavery is like old slavery.
Matias
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Slavery definitely never ended in the US. Prisoners can be and are used for slave labor, as per the 13th amendment.
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Stumpsprouts
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Pinheaded blowhard. No more replying to you.@Matias
If you think Redwings are bad then I can't say anything about Carolina shoe... LoL
Why I love Carolina Boots is just only one reasons.. Critic's are all saying Carolina Boots sucks than Ariat boots , Corcoran, Red wings ... Brah brah brah .. .with many legit points with it.
But to me ...
it's in the Rivet .
That one rivets changes the longevity of that boots tremendously. Any other work boots companies does not . ( Except Northern Star Gravel gear Work boots with slavery conditions boots , Because it's an complete carbon copy of Carolina Boots. I would never go for that Douchebagary company's boots I'm sure. )
Now, some people might point out why don't you just put those rivet all by yourself ?
Well , They are totally right about that .
I do know & how to install them by myself as well. It's nothing to it .
But if I can buy with it already installed then I would chose that shoe makers company shoes than any other companies that doesn't.
Because I do know that it needs to be there .
I work .
& I need a pair of work boots.
A good pair of real work boots .
And I do respect whoever came up with it . Who does know such a small detail changes everything ...
I don't know when or whom but a He or she must have thought for the users and actualy think thru it...
with in a such a chaotic conditions at work shop or capitalisms or whatever it might be ....
That person thought for the real users . An Real damn good pair of work boots for real workers with reasonable price tag
There is an old saying ...
" Put yourself in someone's shoes... "
I think Carolina Shoe did just that and it's out shines to me than any another shoe companies out there even now ...
Rivet !!!
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Child labor, Slavery does still exists here today....
Those Japanese car companies are so Evil... such a Sneaky lying mofos ... Thanks God We dropped Two big ones over Hiroshima & Nagasaki ....
Child workers found throughout Hyundai-Kia supply chain in Alabama
A Reuters investigation found child workers throughout Hyundai and Kia's supply chain in Alabama. State and federal authorities are probing their suppliers.www.reuters.com
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Very bad joke? Hopefully
Pinhead Squirrel
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Gents,
Child labor is the worst thing you can do for Childrens . Worst thing. Especially in modern society in 2022.
Literally, crossing the line of international laws, humane society ethical, moral line .
It ain't same as street corner lemonade stands, or door to door girl scout cookies sellers .
Those kids at factory were working at dangerous hazardous working positions.
And old Japan was crossing international laws back then over Chinese citizens, Korean girls , murdering them raping them they says even now then Japanese attacked Pearl harbor so that's how we've enter the war with Japan .
Then those dropping of nuclear war head ultimately put ends to WW2 . right ?
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You know when you see a thread on the timeline and you think ’Booooooring’ then you’re bored so you think, ‘lets have a look’
then it’s really dark and you think ‘how did they get here?’
Then you realise it’s the internet and it’s mad and a thread about ‘what boots?’ Ends up as ‘did dropping the atomic bomb end WW2?’
Then you go to bed and stare at the ceiling through the inky blackness and ask yourself ’will I accidentally swallow any spiders tonight?’ Before waking up and starting the whole horror show for the millionth time?
Well that’s today.
then it’s really dark and you think ‘how did they get here?’
Then you realise it’s the internet and it’s mad and a thread about ‘what boots?’ Ends up as ‘did dropping the atomic bomb end WW2?’
Then you go to bed and stare at the ceiling through the inky blackness and ask yourself ’will I accidentally swallow any spiders tonight?’ Before waking up and starting the whole horror show for the millionth time?
Well that’s today.
Pinhead Squirrel
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Well, Thank you for you guys for " Booings" .
After careful reading on its articles and review , an suggestion from my roommates
. I've came to realization that that article of Child labor isn't connected any Japanese car makers whatsoever . LMAO I'd apologize for the any confusions that it may have caused to many.
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Damn it, I try hard to not be cynical. Thanking god for killing 99% innocent people would make Jesus cringe pinhead.
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