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doctor_L

doctor_L

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owner was on site today

first tree was a large co-dom hackberry lots of decay from what used to be a major anchor and three feet up the stem

as soon as i began proding at the decay the owner said that tree is safe to climb and wanted me to throw my spikes on and climb the tree

I began tossing a throwline within 3 tosses he asks why I would set a line in removal i could spike.

I clip my handsaw on my saddle and he questioned my choice to carry a hand saw on a removal.

my questions are ???

1. how would you react?

2. why would you not want a line that you could test the integrity of a tree from the ground and then use it as a tool to ascend it?

3. Is it ever a bad idea to carry a handsaw?
 
we did discus it later and i tried to explain why i do certain things i even feel he understands

but then again he bought a crane and wont buy me a 200t our climbing saws are all 192's and we do alot of big removals.
 
For me it would be very straight forward answer. I would explain that this is the way I do it and that is that. I don't negotiate saftey, period.
 
thanks for the thought chuck. though im not sure what him personally being insured has to do with my safety.

if anything it should be more reason to stay out of my hair.
 
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I would chuckle slowly as I bent down to pick up a handful of dirt. I would play with the dirt, slowly pouring it from one hand to the other while calmly explaining that I am more interested in doing my job safely than getting killed out here. As he marinates on that, I would quickly throw the handful of dirt in his eyes and as he is writhing on the ground in pain, I would take his pick up truck to the nearest bar, and spend my whole paycheck on Miller Lite and chicken wings.

But that's just how I roll.



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the fastest animal is not always the winner

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Nope but the fastest climber always is. Cheaper bid, do more, gets paid more.

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Corpses can't spend money

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Did anyone say anything about death? I belive he was takling about getting a talkin to at work for being scared to do his job, and not doing it in a timely manner. Wants to use couple safty issues to back it. Souned like the boss wasn't buying anything he had to sell.
 
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Besides Tom if you have fear of doing your job you should find new type of work. The ones who get hurt the worst are the scared one trying to do more than they can.
 
I would have asked him if he wanted to do the tree,if so I would have gone home.If not I would have told him to shut the f¤¤k up and let me do my job.
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Didj
 
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Nope but the fastest climber always is. Cheaper bid, do more, gets paid more.

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Wooops I'm gonna bust yer balls Holly. Fast doesn't always win if you're talking about repeat business. Right is what counts, good cleanup, time spent educating the customer. Those things aren't fast and don't translate into maxinmum volume of work... but they do translate to really good work on high end property with nice pay. I can say that cuz I'm one slow old dog with a pretty steady backlog.

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Did anyone say anything about death? I belive he was takling about getting a talkin to at work for being scared to do his job, and not doing it in a timely manner. Wants to use couple safty issues to back it. Souned like the boss wasn't buying anything he had to sell.

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I've been in that same situation on contract jobs. Invariably those guys don't want you to put a line in the tree, want you to use your lifeline to lower wood, and laugh about PPE, blablabla. They are the guys that pay $200 (or less) for 10 hours of intensive, nightmare work and piss and moan the whole time. They're the guys that get hot when things invariably don't go according to their flawed, overoptimistic plans. They squeeze every ounce out of their people rather than letting the people give it.

I got no use for a leader who can't lead.

Climbing is like aviation and the climber is the pilot... only one guy gets to make safety decisions... the guy who will pay dearly if something goes wrong.
 
maybe the boss is really an ok guy and does allow his climber to do it his way...he still has a right to ask any frickin question he wants. sounds like he only questioned you about your method of the job at hand. Sounds like you guys have a pretty good relationship to me. Does he make you follow safety standards? does he seem to care about you at all? Or is he a get it done typewith no regard to you and yours? I know what blinky is saying and if thats the case then you need to find another job. I know if one of my guys got hurt I would be the first one to do everything in my power to make sure he and his were taken care of. This is a dangerous biz, its part of the job discription. I wonder how many guys out there really have and FOLLOW any kind of safety program. It is not cheap to set up andlets not forget about workers comp! Its hard not to let money get in the way sometimes, and I have to remind myself constantly that my head guy is doing the best he can, and I have to trust his judgement. It works both ways yall
 
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