What do you think of this adjustable false crotch?

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What do you think of this way of adjusting the length of this false crotch/friction saver? Simply a friction hitch tied off to the end the small ring is attached to. Originally I ran the hitch thru the small ring, but I didn't want the climbing rope to come in contact with it. So it is ran it thru the loop created to hold the ring.
 

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Having a small problem with the ring pulling in one direction and the rope pulling against the stich in the other direction. Ripping the stich is like tearing a phone book in half ,one page at a time..

Otherwise quite ingenious technique.

Admire the ingenuity..

Keep up the good work.
 
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I second the stitching thing. It's designed to be pulled "with" the webbing...if that makes sense.

Maybe if you ran the prusik straight through the ring?

love
nick
 
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sohner, Nick, thanks for the advice about the stitching, and incorrect pull on the webbing. Nick, I'm afraid that if the hitch was attached to the ring, it could rub the climbing rope. On a long decent it might burn thru. I could us a carabiner?????
 
Interesting take on an adjustable friction saver. Way to think outside the box. However, I believe it's simpler and safer to just add a ring to the prusik.
 
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the f.s. shouldnt get caught too often as the adjuster should already be on the pulling side for removal. now getting that baby through a tight crotch maybe not as that seems to be bulky. maybe slim the adjuster down by using spliceable cordage and splice away anew twist on an old invention. keep up the good work bro.
 
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Having a small problem with the ring pulling in one direction and the rope pulling against the stich in the other direction. Ripping the stich is like tearing a phone book in half ,one page at a time..

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I also see the stiching conflict, what if you used some heavy duty sized lock stiching to sure up the stiching in the webbing somehow? Is this plausable or just a bad idea as it might weaken the webbing? Just some food for thought, an idea for my fellow buzzers to toss around
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Having a small problem with the ring pulling in one direction and the rope pulling against the stich in the other direction. Ripping the stich is like tearing a phone book in half ,one page at a time..


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I agree. It would proably take some time to tear the stitching, but the stitching is definitely not designed to be loaded in this manner.

Seems it would be just as easy to attach the cord to a separate ring. Small FS rings can be easily purchased for about $6 - $8.
 
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no its backed up by the rest of the f/s

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do you mean backed up by runing the rope through all three rings? As I dont do this because the extra ring added a noticable amount of extra friction to the system. i made my prusik w/ ring out of 8mm beeline and this works really well.
 
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I think inztrees was saying that the FS shown in the original photo could have a weaker prusik, because in that scenario, you are still using the full strap as a back up.

Ditto on the spliced prusik loop. Maybe beeline?

Double ditto on just getting another ring and attaching it- maybe with some beeline?

I don't like the "time will tell" attitude for the stitching. Time might show wear over time, but a big fall could cause things to happen that you didn't think would happen. I'd get the prusik out of their.

I don't think reinforcing the stitching would be good. There isn't a way to know that the whipping would be any stronger than the stitching in a big fall. You can only look at it and say, "that oughtta hold 'er."

Keep it up, though!

love
nick
 
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Thanks for all the valued and sound advice. I think I have solved the 'stress on the stitching' issue and my fear of having the climbing line burn on the hitch cord. I ran the bitter end of the cord thru the ring and thru the webbing loop. Therefor connecting the friction hitch to the ring, no stitch stress and the cord is passed thru the webbing loop protecting it from rubbing. I hope the picture explains it better.
Nick, I agree a spliced cord would be much cleaner. It would have to be spliced after going thru the ring. Also, I have not advanced to the splicing level yet, maybe some day.
Pat.
 

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