what did u have 4lunch 2day?

It's obvious his whole charade has worked.


He is a fake persona. No one would put Pot Smoking down as a hobby unless they were trying to raise hackles.


Climbers are climbers, food is food, and Grover is trying to fan the flames.



Ropeburn, you suck. But thanks for the spirited debate!


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As good as some organic food is, some of it is total BS too. This fad of people drinking "No Growth hormone milk" is one example. Milk cant be tested for growth hormones. So farmers are forced to take a hit in production by not using them so the milk distributer can make an extra buck, which isnt going to end up in that farmers pocket. No doubt some of the organic all natural stuff is good, I like to eat it. But theres a lot of people out there who just buy organic food because its trendy and probably good for them, and they dont understand the other consequences it has. Fuzzy- I'm not suggesting youre one of these people at all, I just wanted to get my view out there.
 
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I read the replies here to this thread, I'm horrified. I am almost offended by your diets. The most common answer here is PB&J. To me...it sounds like some sort of a lab experiment where the rats are given junk food to eat and then placed on a treadmill.

Please excuse my shock and let me tell you a few things; and I really hope you think about what I have to say before flaming me up in replies. I am posting here in the hopes that some of you may gain from my knowledge. So listen up because to me, if you want to call yourself a "climber" theres more to it then grabbing a set of spikes and a saw, sucking down one quick cigarette and then climbing up a tree.

First, a little background on me. I began rock-climbing in 1990. I learned I had a natural talent for climbing hard, making comitting moves well over my last piece of pro, and I had a cool focused mind when it came to figuring out moves. I am also an ice climber. I have climbed many of the hardest routes in the east. I have travelled all around the country. I have climbed all over. I have made alot of serious decisions while roped in and I have logged some serious air time for the decisions I got wrong. I climb at expert levels. I am a 5.11b rad leader (rock) and lead Grade 5 on ice. I have climbed 1000ft routes in Yosemite. I have climbed the daunting Mindbender, a 300ft sheer vert ice climb in Lake Willoughby,VT. I have been a tree climber for line clearance and residential. I have ridden the ball for some monster trees as well done ornamentals. All through my "career" as a climber and as a lover of high places I have met 100's of climbers. I have talked with them about everything from climbing philosophies to technique, from training to intestinal fortitude. And of course diet.

I have come to understand something about "high-end" climbing in general. There is a level of climbing, above the Big Mac eating, cigarette smoking, PB+J bringing, Little Debbie snack-cake stuffed lunch box having, loaded with mayo and saturated fat, and a couple of "drinks" (god Cash-Money you retard), that can only be attained by controlling your diet. The difference between a 5.10 rock-climber and a 5.11 climber is simply diet. The difference between making it into a remote ice climb and up the bloody thing and then back home before the light fades and keeping all your fingers and toes is diet. Fueling your body on junk is not only foolhearty, its irresponsible. In the world I'm from climbers must have a serious mind. In my world you are either a "heads-up guy" or a "dunderhead".
It's Hard to control every aspect of a job...particularly when you are up in a tree and you have to worry about some "green-bean" pitching you climbing line into the chipper.

YOU...YOUR BODY...YOUR PHYSICAL BEING.. is not only your most important tool, its what keeps you and those under you safe. Fuel your body with healthy foods. You will perform better, recover faster, make better decisions.
The business itself is hard on the body, no need to add poison;what I consider your diets to mainly consist of, to the list of abuse we go through daily.

Is any of this getting through to you guys?

I have a lot more to offer on this subject including recipes for good "power food" and info on whats what. BUT if y'all ain't not interested or just plain 'ol just love PB+J and don't wanna hear it then I'll just stop now.

Oh, a final thought here, (Cash Money Listen up bro) there's plenty of time to drink and smoke and party and kill brain cells indescriminately AFTER work. You know, like on your couch, in the relative safety of your own home.

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Ropeburn, this post is what every serious treeclimber should learn to understand before setting foot in a tree.

Despite what all the other naysaying junkfood junkies here say I'm in total agreement with your philoshophy on eating the right food.

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OK..the problem with good 'ol PB+J. Its loaded with high-fructose corn syrup - the absolute worst kind of cheap energy. Not only will it leave you in the dump an hour into a climb, its bad for your teeth.

For those who don't know... the ingredients on any food are listed in order of their amounts.

Peanut Butter - (forgive my attack on an american classic)

First two ingredients, Roasted Peanuts ad sugar. (Jif PB)

It's highin fat - 16g in 2 tbsp 3g of sat fat

It does have high protein - which is good... there are better ways to get protein without all the cheap sugar.

Jelly - (I like Welches Jam too... but its not exactly health food)

Firt ingredients - Concord grapes,corn syrup, high fructose corn syrup.

1 tbsp of grape jam contains 13g of carbs... 13 grams of sugar - its like umm candy.

Wonder Bread - (I assume no one here has PB+J on 12 grain whole wheat bread)

Ok who here knows the basic ingredients for making bread?
Flour - Water - Sugar - Yeast - maybe a pinch of salt..

The enriched wheat flour found in these cheap breads may help to explain our obesity level inthis country. The bleached white flour used is vertually indigestable to the human body. Its nasty.. virtually all white breads common to us blue collar folks are the same.

Wonder Bread - enriched wheat flour - water, high fructose corn syrup or sugar, yeast and then a huge list of chemical additives that atfirst glance look like the ingredients to make a bomb.

2 slices 90 calories 10 calories from fat 1g sat fat (not terrible)but listen to this 18g of otal carbs- no doubt from the notorious high fructose corn syrup

High Fructose Corn Syrup is the DEVIL!!!!

The higher level of sugar you eat, the more insulin your body creates. Insulin is our bodies key element in the breaking down of sugars. For most of us.. producing it is not a problem. It is proven however that high intake of sugary foods leads to Diabetes. Theres one problem with producing higher Insulin; It inhibits the bodies ability to process fats. If you understand some of the principles of the Atkins diet you already know this. (Not that I believe Atkins is the way to go mind you)

BostonBull - You seem like a decent fellow, unfortunately I won't give my employers info out...past or present...as most are well known and I don't need any strangers stalking me.

I love PB+J... and it may have been alright to fuel your body on when you were 6 yrs old, and the biggest task of the day was sand-box time but adults, and even more specifically, adults engaging in a physically demanding job who are responsible for their guys, their customers, and themselves, simply need adult food. Good nutritional food with vitamins, solid proteins, 0 trans fat, low and natural sugars. I'll Post a decent recipe for a power salad I enjoy regularly. (and it tastes great and has good nutritional value)

Sorry I'm an @ss - but you gotta stick with what you are best at I guess =p

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Thanks again ropeburn for an other informative and relevant post regarding what goes into a cheap PB+J snadwich. Your right, that kind of food is worthless to a person who is seriously interested being a fit and healthy climber.
 
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Thanks for your post MasterBlaster thats terrific yeah.

So thats one vote I have for "No thanks I'd rather remain an ignorant @ss"

Anyone else want to seriously talk about diet?

Or would you prefer to listen to MB's thoughts on the subject?

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Hey ropeburn, one thing you gotta understand about Treebuzz is that many people here are over sensitive cissys who get all offended when you say something that is contrary to their overhyped opinions.

Stick around bro, I reckon you got some good ideas that might help this forum avoid becoming a staid and stagnant dryed up old room, bloated with boring tree stories and arborgroms who never tire of pandering to the usual suspects.
 
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Stick around bro, I reckon you got some good ideas that might help this forum avoid becoming a staid and stagnant dryed up old room, bloated with boring tree stories and arborgroms who never tire of pandering to the usual suspects.

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Now that's the hardest laugh I have had since the Geezers!


Nice one, Grover.

Lovingly pandering amid and towards the the usual suspects,


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Wait a minute Grover...

this guy comes in here brand new, like a bull in a china shop, spouting about his grand accomplishments using nutrition as a pretense... and you're all for it? ...and then you want to bust my balls about self congratulatory BS when I said nothing about myself at all? That's pathetic.

So are you and RB the same person and you're just having this inane conversation with yourself?
 
Blinky, Blinky....Blinky,

I wasnt saying that you were calling yourself one of the 'best climbers in the world' I was referring to you referring to the usual suspects as 'the best climbers in the world'. Thats all, no biggie.

Trust me, I am not Ropeburn, to tell you the truth I was bored with all the 'rock climbing grade 5.9' stuff in his second post but I do appreciate his posting style, I thought he was just being confident whereas you, Easy P, MB and the fascist chimp 'cory' thought he was being obnoxious.

Sorry for the mix up Blinky, I'm still avidly searching for an opportunity to use your 'highline'
 
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I think we hurt his feelings.

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I agree, you and the other fascist chimps scared him off when you ganged up on him for no good reason other than to assert some kind of quasi-moral authority.

Ropeburn, if your out there in the ether, can you come back and tell us what you eat on an average day? I and a few other interested parties are keen to know.

Thanks
 
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Easy there big fella - that was my only post in this thread after he was gang tackled at the 1 yard line

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PB and J! Everyday for 2 years.

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I thought I was the only kid who never grew up! Skippy and Smuckers (grape) on butter top wheat. Yogurt and bananas for dessert.

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Ok, I'll take back the fascist chimp comment for you. But the rest of the geezers have ropeburn's blood on their hands. Poor guy, just wanted to give some helpful advice.

RDMOTT, did you ever find out anymore about Oleo Mac in the US? Maybe they dont export to you guys?
 
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Ok, I'll take back the fascist chimp comment for you. But the rest of the geezers have ropeburn's blood on their hands. Poor guy, just wanted to give some helpful advice.

RDMOTT, did you ever find out anymore about Oleo Mac in the US? Maybe they dont export to you guys?

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Thank you Mr. Grover. No other info on the Oleo Mac other than the one link. Probably right about not being exported here as well.
 
It's not what you say, its how you say it. We've all heard it a thousand times. For a guy to come on here and blow people out of the water like that makes him fair game. He may have a very vaild point but when you project it like a jerk off, guys are going to eat you up. Like a PB & J.
 
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But the rest of the geezers have ropeburn's blood on their hands.

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And it tastes just like ekkka's blood, sour and stagnant.
 
I appreciate you straightening that out Grover.

As for pandering, well, I have no one to pander to, I say what I think. There ARE really great climbers on this forum, some are top competitors in national and international TCCs... but I really don't care what they think of me, I care what my kids think of me.

I agree with Tucker that RB made a lightning rod out of himself and was gang tackled because he pretty much asked for it. I also agree with Grover that RB probably has something to contribute... assuming he's not just another incarnation of ekka or somebody. But, without giving respect, he will gain no respect. His posts presume that no one here is up to anything but mediocre climbing and that's an ignorant presumption.

So anyway, this thread's pretty burned at this point but with my last words I'll maintain that peanut butter is good food, not junk. It works, that's supported by years of people's experience which was reflected in this thread before it derailed... I like extra crunchy.
 
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