Want to buy 20in used chipper-- any suggestions?

Re: Want to buy 20in used chipper-- any suggestion

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We all know this is'nt about chippers, this is just your petty way of retaliation. /forum/images/graemlins/9lame.gif

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But Ed you haven't done anything to me.

Dan
 
Re: Want to buy 20in used chipper-- any suggestion

Snip.

I removed my Monkey assed comment as it may have offended a member of this board, although that was not it's intention, humour was the intent.

Anyway, I have fed a few chippers in my time and the things I really like as a feature is "lift and crush".

My 0.02
 
Re: Want to buy 20in used chipper-- any suggestion

Hey guys...

Take the personal stuff out in the street. See the big guy at the end of the bar? He'll toss you through one of the chicken beaters we have out back if you don't play nice at the TreeBuzz Cafe.

I beleive it is possible for a dealer or vendor to have some objectivity and credibility. Read what's been written. I don't read anything that is out of line in any of the comments.

I've seen too much tension build on the discussion forums when bad attitudes aren't controlled. This will lead to a downward spiral in the forums. If anyone has a complaint about how somebody is behaving, write to Mark and I and let us sort it out.
 
Re: Want to buy 20in used chipper-- any suggestion

Tom, I appreciate your comments, and apologise for lowering myself to Treeco's level.
However, I feel I must answer his accusations. I am accused of trying to run down other manufacturers machines, and sell conehead machines.
I would like to know how I 'profit' from running down other machines? 'Price on the tip of my tounge?' I am 6000 miles away, and have no means or interest in selling machines in the US. I havent even time to sell machines in the UK at the moment!
There has been a lot of interest in the new drum technology Dynamic are producing, and if people post questions, I will do my best to answer. when was the last real inovation in chipper technology?
 
Re: Want to buy 20in used chipper-- any suggestion

Ed it would be nice if some of the users of Conehead chippers would speak up instead of a Conehead dealer doing all of the talking.

One member here has said he has used both Morbark and Conehead and chooses the Morbark over all.

I've seen several Conehead demos and I personally am not impressed. Plus they seem to be over priced for their capacity. The word on the street is they plug their chutes easily.

http://www.careerbuilder.com/monk-e-mail/?mid=3692389
 
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Well, I have to agree with Tom. I haven't seen anything that was said was out of line until a few "personal" comments were made.

I spoke to a guy from Baltimore that said that they ran a demo/challenge of Cone,Morbark,Vermeer and Bandit. He said cone won. He was standing at the cone booth while he told me this and I believe that he also gets some type of deal for being a supporter, but that doesn't mean that he's wrong- does it?

There was another challenge in GA when I was there and the cone got jammed. One guy I asked said that vermeer won that one.

Try a demo for yourself I say.
 
Re: Want to buy 20in used chipper-- any suggestion

Dan, I'm geting a feeling of Deja Moo here, weve been through this before.
But I'll try and give you a fair response again - of the online community I can recall, rfwoodvt, Ctbeast, WileyP, Koa - they all sing the praises of their coneheads.

As to Demo saying he prefers morbark, so what? I prefer husqvarna - does that mean their better than stihl? its just his preference - as bandit is yours.

I would like to know what model morbark Demo was comparing the conehead to. He says the morbark would take 32" - that means its a bloody huge chipper, as the smallest morbark to take that kind of dia. would be a 30/36 http://www.morbark.com/Equipment/SpecSheets/30.36WTC.pdf
a significantly bigger machine than the biggest conehead, with up to 450hp.
But hey, Earl Smith, the owner of Dynamic chippers, was the cheif engineer/designer at morbark for 27 years, so I would expect some commonality.

Your comments on them being overpriced and under capacity, is this just your opinion or have you facts and figures to show me?
I do know, that size for size, the coneheads have bigger (up to 40%) infeeds than all competitors.

for comparison, a bandit 250xp has 240 square inches of cutting infeed vs 255 on the DC50.
A 280XP HD bandit has 360"sq vs 504"sq on a 500 series conehead.
Pricing, i wouldent know what US retail prices are.

As to 'word on the street', again can you back that up?

If you look at the video I posted, the 500 series is blowing chips about 60' - and thats on fresh felled, fully limbed pine. on the piece of poplar, the chips are going about 80'
Koa, who does huge amounts of palms, says that his DC50 is impossible to plug- and he, like myself has used a great deal of chipers.
 
Re: Want to buy 20in used chipper-- any suggestion

If you are feeling Deja Moo you ought to check your shoes.

I doubt many people here are gullable enough to believe that your only interest in promoting dynamic is seeing that the world gets a better chipper.

I've seen three Dynamic demos in person. One that was near my location was a 15 inch model that they were asking $46,000. for. It was brand new and did no better than a 4 year old 15 inch Veermer. I went to lunch with the owner of that tree company after the demo and he said "No Way" is that chipper worth that much. His crew leader thought the same and so did I.
 
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That price is incorrect from anything I have seen Dan, its exactly 10k too high depending on options.
 
Re: Want to buy 20in used chipper-- any suggestion

Carl I believe they were both 18 inch chippers and I said they were 15 inch. At that time a new Bandit 280xp was going for 39,500. This was a little over a year ago.
 
Re: Want to buy 20in used chipper-- any suggestion

Anyway.....How heavy of a truck do we need to pull these larger chippers? We got the demo tape from Conehead but my husband was wanting to see an oak or something ran through instead of a pine. We seldom take down pines here in Iowa.

Do you guys suggest just using a skid loader to feed the chippers instead of buying the winch or loader with the chippers? That extra is more expensive then a skid loader it seems!
 
Re: Want to buy 20in used chipper-- any suggestion

definately a skid loader jen! never bother with a grapple on a chipper. Mr Schra has the best type of loader, I think he posted some pics. I believe an F250 diesel will 'manage' with a 22" conehead, but dont take my word for it.
And thats oak going through the machine in my video. I do have some more video clips of a 515 conehead chipping a BIG piece of rock hard maple. i'll host it for you, see what you think.
Remember though, ask all the chipper manufacturers to come and give you a demo. If they cant do that, they're not worth buying from.
 
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Mr Schra has the best type of loader, I think he posted some pics.

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Its not mine :) its our company's.

Most company's uses these mobile wheel or caterpillar cranes here to feed chippers or those rotating shredders. We use a rotable 'wrecking' graple but most use a log graple in the field. Only the ones chipping/shredding stationary at a depot use the wrecking graple the most. Often a bigger loader is used to drum the branches towards the machine and a crane is feeding.
 

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Re: Want to buy 20in used chipper-- any suggestion

I've just been talking to the Guys at the conehead factory, and they say they would be more than happy to bring a 20" chipper over to Iowa for Jen + guys to test. After all, they say the proof of the pudding is in the eating. /forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif
If anybody has any problems with me posting this, just let me know.
If they buy a chipper or not its no difference to me. however, if Jen wishes to come to the UK to buy a chipper, then I'll make a finacial gain out it. /forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 
Re: Want to buy 20in used chipper-- any suggestion

Mam, the good thing about a loader is its always with the chipper. If I was buying a 22" chipper for residential work or anything but landclearing I would def spend the extra money up front to not have to drag around a skid steer all day.

On some operations they use a skid/mini skid/tractor to forward the debris. You could load with it then, but on the same token you could have one person running the loader stuffing the chipper while the forwarder just drops it in reach and keeps going.

For my personal setup if I was getting a chipper that size I would get a loader. I only need the population to double so I could justify it /forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
Re: Want to buy 20in used chipper-- any suggestion

Well-- need some opionions about this...

We can get a New Vermeer 1800 with hydrolic winch and chute with a 175 HP engine for $50500 but will not be available until March 20
but
talked to a Mobark dealer and he has a 2004 2400xl with 750 hrs, Hydrolic winch, jack, and chute and it has 200 HP engine for $38000.

Isn't that a really good deal???? Thanks for your earlier input. I guess it has been narrowed down to these two!
 

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