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SomethingWitty said:
The tire rubber stuff isn't life support. The shembiner barely fits in the caritool spot and moves very little, but it would eat your webbing.
My rubber stuff is not chewed up, and I'm rocking the grey shembiners for the third(?) year.
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What about transporter - rock exotica or do you not use


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I wonder if we could round off the corners on the shem and polish them so they don't wear on the webbing? I've had a shem on my webbing for a couple months and haven't noticed any wear yet, but I am due for a close look. I'll check it out in the morning. Or maybe a piece of electrical tape as a replaceable abrasion sleeve? I don't want to put it on just the "leather".
 
RBJtree said:
I wonder if we could round off the corners on the shem and polish them so they don't wear on the webbing? I've had a shem on my webbing for a couple months and haven't noticed any wear yet, but I am due for a close look. I'll check it out in the morning. Or maybe a piece of electrical tape as a replaceable abrasion sleeve? I don't want to put it on just the "leather".
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See I had issues with other tools fucking my leather up. But ever since I started using the webbing as I see most others do. I have no issue. I use Shembiner on my left side, and transporter on my right. I’m fast and clipping my saw into my transporter. Left side I’m not as efficient and shembiner makes it way easier for me. I also like that my transporter locks the saw in place and I know walking around if I hit it or anything it can’t pop off. Tho the shembiner has that little like hook piece to prevent this. I haven’t used it long enough to be sure. I don’t get very many trees with big open spreads. South Florida everything is tight so I’m ducking and climbing through branches and saw hits lots of shit

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I just got my first treemotion (Evo) and my first shembiner. The shembiner instructions specifically advise against attaching to the TM webbing since the webbing is part of life support. You could wear out the webbing. Also, if a big branch wants to take your biner and saw for a ride, you are going with it.

So take that for what it's worth. I'm still just getting my new TM set up, so I'm paying attention to this thread! Also, holy moly the shembiner is wonderful :-)
 
After inspecting the webbing that my shembiner was on, I did see some wear. At this point it is just some minor fuzzing of the webbing, but thats enough for me to not want to continue using life support webbing for the shem. The slot is too small for me to want to try rounding and polishing it, and I think if I tried some sort of chaff sleave the slot wouldn't fit over it. I really don't like the option of putting it on the "leather" either, especially with the reports of it tearing. I think I'm just going to get another transporter. Its only money. Everyone should have 3 transporters on their treemo. It took me a month to stop reaching with my thumb for the non-existent gate on the shem when grabbing my saw, it will probably take 30 minutes to re-habitualize that motion.
 
RBJtree said:
After inspecting the webbing that my shembiner was on, I did see some wear. At this point it is just some minor fuzzing of the webbing, but thats enough for me to not want to continue using life support webbing for the shem. The slot is too small for me to want to try rounding and polishing it, and I think if I tried some sort of chaff sleave the slot wouldn't fit over it. I really don't like the option of putting it on the "leather" either, especially with the reports of it tearing. I think I'm just going to get another transporter. Its only money. Everyone should have 3 transporters on their treemo. It took me a month to stop reaching with my thumb for the non-existent gate on the shem when grabbing my saw, it will probably take 30 minutes to re-habitualize that motion.
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I have also put my transporters and Shem on only leather on my new evo actually a better and more secure fit. And it was wearing my old webbing on my old saddle


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I have been running this bridge configuration for a little while and getting along with it pretty well. No hate to swivels, I just found that having one in it’s normal configuration on your bridge doesn’t really suit my climbing style. The swivel does still help distribute forces in this setup though, which I find to be nice. The viper was just a piece I had laying around. I’ll probably swap that out for something else before too long.
 
climbstihl said:
@shankenstein That kind of defeats the purpose of a double bridge, doesn’t it? So now it's just a redudancy thing.
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To me, redundancy is one of the best aspects of a double bridge. Are you saying it defeats the purpose of having two fully separate anchor points? I can still clip a carabiner direct to the minor bridge if I want to distribute forces that way. I personally have a fairly short torso and I hate excessive clutter around the bridge. I’m not that interested in having a second bridge ring floating around all of the time, especially since I still use my side and low d’s a lot.

I think the bridge is a weak link in the climbing system, and also very close to where a lot of cutting happens. I wanted a system that’s tidy, compact and provides a backup to my primary attachment point in all situations. I was trying to run just an anchor ring on the primary bridge, then have a revolver carabiner attaches to the ring that also captured the secondary bridge. However, having the revolver there didn’t meet my tidy criteria.
 
shankenstein said:
To me, redundancy is one of the best aspects of a double bridge. Are you saying it defeats the purpose of having two fully separate anchor points? I can still clip a carabiner direct to the minor bridge if I want to distribute forces that way. I personally have a fairly short torso and I hate excessive clutter around the bridge. I’m not that interested in having a second bridge ring floating around all of the time, especially since I still use my side and low d’s a lot.

I think the bridge is a weak link in the climbing system, and also very close to where a lot of cutting happens. I wanted a system that’s tidy, compact and provides a backup to my primary attachment point in all situations. I was trying to run just an anchor ring on the primary bridge, then have a revolver carabiner attaches to the ring that also captured the secondary bridge. However, having the revolver there didn’t meet my tidy criteria.
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Besides it being what was on hand, any reason for the swivel instead of a rigging plate?
 
RBJtree said:
After inspecting the webbing that my shembiner was on, I did see some wear. At this point it is just some minor fuzzing of the webbing, but thats enough for me to not want to continue using life support webbing for the shem. The slot is too small for me to want to try rounding and polishing it, and I think if I tried some sort of chaff sleave the slot wouldn't fit over it. I really don't like the option of putting it on the "leather" either, especially with the reports of it tearing. I think I'm just going to get another transporter. Its only money. Everyone should have 3 transporters on their treemo. It took me a month to stop reaching with my thumb for the non-existent gate on the shem when grabbing my saw, it will probably take 30 minutes to re-habitualize that motion.
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Just put it on the leather. It does nothing to it. I have one on an older TM for over 4 years. It is still jamming. Nothing beats easy on off of a Shem....
 
swingdude said:
Just put it on the leather. It does nothing to it. I have one on an older TM for over 4 years. It is still jamming. Nothing beats easy on off of a Shem....
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I put it on the leather since I posted about it last. It has been fine so far. I always clip the end of the lanyard on the side d. The shem only sees the ring for the short hang, so it never gets any kind of shockload if I need to drop the saw (which almost never happens anyway). I could see the leather ripping if it was treated roughly.
 
RBJtree said:
I put it on the leather since I posted about it last. It has been fine so far. I always clip the end of the lanyard on the side d. The shem only sees the ring for the short hang, so it never gets any kind of shockload if I need to drop the saw (which almost never happens anyway). I could see the leather ripping if it was treated roughly.
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I will show you my setup. Simple and effective. The conveyor belt material does not rip easy. Trust me.
 
shankenstein said:
Yes, if I have two wide tie ins, it still swivels a bit to distribute the forces. I think it’s more comfortable than a plate.

What do other people do with their second bridge when it’s not in use?
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If an unused bridge is getting in the way I clip the bridge ring, or swivel, or whatever to a side D with an accessory biner.
-AJ
 
Had bought a foot loop for a hand ascender from Singing Rock, it got chopped down to knee ascender height, and I was left with a nice buckle that wasn’t being used anymore, and I was hating the Cobra buckle on my TM, so I sewed it on. Works excellent, snugs easily and so far seems to be staying as tight as I set it. Goodbye suspenders, you shan’t be missed!!8E427497-7142-49BC-897F-1080BA2C9150.webp
 
Jonny said:
Had bought a foot loop for a hand ascender from Singing Rock, it got chopped down to knee ascender height, and I was left with a nice buckle that wasn’t being used anymore, and I was hating the Cobra buckle on my TM, so I sewed it on. Works excellent, snugs easily and so far seems to be staying as tight as I set it. Goodbye suspenders, you shan’t be missed!!View attachment 64515
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Is that their Rocklock (not sure if I got that right) buckle? Because it looks like you can open it, right? That would make it perfect.
 
Yes, Rock & Lock, seems pretty secure but opens up easy when I want it to. I wanna give it some hours of use before I can strongly recommend it, but so far so good.
 
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