Unicender

tophopper, just completed the work climb in charlotte. SRT with F8 revolver. 4th place in work climb out of a field of 45. 2 minutes 50 seconds. tommorow it will be used in the masters challenge. I will let you know how it goes.
 
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tophopper, just completed the work climb in charlotte. SRT with F8 revolver. 4th place in work climb out of a field of 45. 2 minutes 50 seconds. tommorow it will be used in the masters challenge. I will let you know how it goes.

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Congrats! I hope you do well in the masters.
 
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Sorry, it just seems as though you guys are beating a dead horse. Is SRT the best thing since sliced bread or is it evil and deplorable or is it another useful tool for the toolbox to be used when the time is right? Yes, no, maybe? blah, blah, blah... If you've read this far then you know the benefits and applications of SRT so try it out for yourself and see how it treats you. If you don't understand the concepts involved then get a good teacher before you try anything dumb.

Hope I didn't kill the thread cuz' it's flippin hilarious watching yous guys pick nits...carry on.
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Almost forgot this is the Unicender thread, not the generic SRT thread. So 450 bucks, huh? I suppose it's worth it, seems quite revolutionary. First I gotta buy dog food and pay down last winter's gas bill.

Tophopper no offense, if I'm any kind of decent climber it's only cuz I paid attention to guys like you.

Good luck in the MC Treebing
 
Why, if SRT is going to be the "new way" of future climbing, is there no really good book out on the market about using the system? I would like to give it a go, but I am pretty clueless about getting adjusted to the system.

Is there a book??
 
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Is there a book??

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nope!!!!


Cuase baffons can't even figure out a simple rule or stated sentence. "Single Rope Technique (SRT) is a set of methods used to descend and ascend on the same single rope."

it does not matter if you use devices or a whole seperate rope long as you are working off the same single rope it's still STR. Till they can figure out how it really works they can't write a book.
 
I have ''On rope'' by Bruce Smith and Allan Padgett. I found it pretty useful and I would reccomend it to get started. Bought it for about 30$ (Canuck dollars) on amazon.ca.
 
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Is there a book??

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nope!!!!


Cuase baffons can't even figure out a simple rule or stated sentence. "Single Rope Technique (SRT) is a set of methods used to descend and ascend on the same single rope."

it does not matter if you use devices or a whole seperate rope long as you are working off the same single rope it's still STR. Till they can figure out how it really works they can't write a book.

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Are you drunk Hollenriech? That is the worst bunch of incoherent babble I have ever heard. Are you suggesting that Smith and Padgett are buffoons (baffons)? On Rope is THE place to start any education on high angle work. Maybe you're trying to suggest in your eloquent tone that DdRT as we know it is simply an offshoot of SRT, and you'd be right, it is a single rope just a different technique.
 
"Step back non-believers or the rain will never fall." Did anyone stop to notice that using SRT in trees is a new thing and like all new things we don't know all the possibilities. We seem to be stuck comparing it to the existing methods. I really think that as time goes on SRT will evolve into it's own art. Look at where climbing has come, from a closed tautline system to any number of variations. At competitions someone is always coming up with something new. SRT is different and as time goes on different methods will show up. Look at ice climbing, they used to cut steps now with the use of specialized equipment they can climb anything. The Uni is one piece of equipment that will allow SRT to shine.
 
How are people who are climbing SRT solving the problem of tending their slack when coming back in from a limb walk? Are people setting up MA so they can pull themselves back in? I've been experimenting with SRT but am stuck trying to figure out a safe and easy way of limb walking. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
 
Morgan and I worked out a new configuration of the bottom, L-shaped part of the Uni that will allow slack tending with as much ease as a well tuned pulley slack tender like in DdRT.

I don't know when it will be available for sale.

One setup that I've heard about but haven't used it to setup a shoulder/neck tether and attach it to the upper loop of the Uni. Then, the Uni is configured like a chest ascender and should slack tend quite easily. This simple setup should solve limb walking nicely.

Bowlegs has a good point. SRT in arborculture is still in it's infancy. Even though I've been fine tuning my understanding for almost 20 years until the Uni came about and Treebing's Fate setup, a workable SRT system wasn't available. Now, with the communication of the Internet we're able to move the discussion forward.

In Yvon Chouinard's ice climbing book he talks about some of the early vertical ice climbs done in Scotland. The climbers would wear thick, wool gloves knit from coarse wool. To form a hand grip on the ice they would place their hand in the right place and allow the mitten to freeze to the ice. Then, as they moved up they would pull the glove away and continue. Where will SRT in trees go from here?
 
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One setup that I've heard about but haven't used it to setup a shoulder/neck tether and attach it to the upper loop of the Uni. Then, the Uni is configured like a chest ascender and should slack tend quite easily. This simple setup should solve limb walking nicely.

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Tom, Interesting timing on this comment because I just got back from trying it. I was doing a small cottonwood removal with some simple lowering, so I thought I would try the Uni in this configuration as kind of a self-tending belay system.

With the top of the Uni attached to the chest harness, the single rope self-tends very well after you get a few feet off the ground. As with most new techniques I try, whether this is something I will regularly incorporate or not, I don't know yet.

Dave
 
Tom had built a slack tender on to the uni but I wanted to try it with a pulley.I really think if the new uni had something like that built in it, it would probably prompt me to buy one.Well when I get rich like Family tree.
 
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