Crazy_Jimmy
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- Location
- Texas
Man you guys are rich,im jealous.
Unicender
- Thread starter matdand
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- Location
- NJ
cool thanks for the pics DSMc, as I've said I never seen this wear. I'll check my sport aint used that in about a year. The spider is 18 months, still on orig clutch and no signs of slip.
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I personally don't mind the slight size difference
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If you hold the spider up to the uni their is a noticeable size diff.
If I ever try the uni I'll wait for the smaller version, or hit the manu up for a demo type / sale ?????
What ya think Tom could the proto type find a price tag for others to try?????
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I personally don't mind the slight size difference
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If you hold the spider up to the uni their is a noticeable size diff.
If I ever try the uni I'll wait for the smaller version, or hit the manu up for a demo type / sale ?????
What ya think Tom could the proto type find a price tag for others to try?????
- Location
- Retired in Minneapolis
I guess, once again, size does matter...to some...the size of my tools isn't as important as how well they perform, if you get my drift.
F-tree---the Uni works in DdRT just fine. There's no reason to need a LJ.
F-tree---the Uni works in DdRT just fine. There's no reason to need a LJ.
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I just ordered a uni yesterday, I'm pretty pumped about it....I'll probably use the uni on srt and lockjack for ddrt.
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Cool. Let us know what you think. I find the Uni on doubled rope does indeed work very well. The friction modulation is very good; one-handed limb swings are achieveable very quickly.
Dave
I just ordered a uni yesterday, I'm pretty pumped about it....I'll probably use the uni on srt and lockjack for ddrt.
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Cool. Let us know what you think. I find the Uni on doubled rope does indeed work very well. The friction modulation is very good; one-handed limb swings are achieveable very quickly.
Dave
treebing
Been here much more than a while
- Location
- Detroit, Mi.
man I want to see this uni and see how it compares. sorry guys, I love my SRT Technique.
The other day I ran a running bowline up about 70' in a pecan tree, SRTed up with the Uni, used my lanyard, untied the bowline connected it the the Uni and finished what I needed to do in the tree with a double rope system. Can you do that with a Lockjack or the other types of SRT methods?
- Location
- NJ
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Can you do that with a Lockjack or the other types of SRT methods?
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Not that I would do it, but, you can srt footlock with the spider. It will slide up the rope, but wont release when loaded to decend. Untie and work drs. What ya tring to get at? Did ya think you had something special?
Can you do that with a Lockjack or the other types of SRT methods?
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Not that I would do it, but, you can srt footlock with the spider. It will slide up the rope, but wont release when loaded to decend. Untie and work drs. What ya tring to get at? Did ya think you had something special?
- Location
- Retired in Minneapolis
I've done cat rescues and the Uni is superb! Tuck pooter under my arm like a football, wrap the rope over the top of Uni and descend smoothly!
- Location
- Longmont, CO
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You can get it at Wesspur now!
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You can get it at Wesspur now!
[/ QUOTE ] Funny. I just the new mag today and saw it there.
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- Longmont, CO
- Location
- Canada
Jamin, it can be used on both. Here is the video link I found on their site.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FLiFUlXWNE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FLiFUlXWNE
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- Longmont, CO
Thanks Brent. But, I've been monitoring the Uni for years now. I know it can be used with both techniques individually. Did you see my photo? The application I'd like to use it is different.
In my photo I can attach my DRT at the base of my mechanical ascender and work off the bottom of it----because I have the micro rope grab above it. Without the rope grab (or any other back up) it is not wise to venture out anything beyond arms length. This practice would be to prevent the possibility of the cam opening up on the ascender while working.
I'm wondering if the Uni is okay to use in this configuration without a back up. Anyone?
In my photo I can attach my DRT at the base of my mechanical ascender and work off the bottom of it----because I have the micro rope grab above it. Without the rope grab (or any other back up) it is not wise to venture out anything beyond arms length. This practice would be to prevent the possibility of the cam opening up on the ascender while working.
I'm wondering if the Uni is okay to use in this configuration without a back up. Anyone?
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- Retired in Minneapolis
I still cannot understand why the setup that Jamin showed is even used. Look at all of the hardware and complexity. A much safer setup, at least to me, would be to ascend, tie a butterfly knot, clip your DdRT into that and go to work. Why be attached to the upper ascender congloberation?
If that setup is used there should be a stopper knot tied below the upper ascender as a back up to the whole works. An overhand on a bite would be just fine. Clipping the bite back below the hitch would be belt and braces.
I guess the Uni could be used in there somehow but it would be a waste of money to use such a fine piece of gear with such potential in such a mundane application.
Jamin...add up the cost of all of the gear in your picture. I'll bet dollars to donuts that you have more $$$ there than the cost of a Uni.
If that setup is used there should be a stopper knot tied below the upper ascender as a back up to the whole works. An overhand on a bite would be just fine. Clipping the bite back below the hitch would be belt and braces.
I guess the Uni could be used in there somehow but it would be a waste of money to use such a fine piece of gear with such potential in such a mundane application.
Jamin...add up the cost of all of the gear in your picture. I'll bet dollars to donuts that you have more $$$ there than the cost of a Uni.
- Location
- Canada
Sorry Jamin, I wasn't paying enough attention (late night with a tooth ache). I am with Tom on everything except the cost comparison. It takes a pile of gear to add up to $450.00. The set-up Jamin is showing would cost close to $300.00 w/o caribiners. The Unicender sitting on my table wold cost WELL over 500 bucks.
BTW Jamin, you seem to have left a caribiner out of the top hole of the handled acscender. I have seen double handled ascender come off the line when "NOT" having the line captured by a carininer in the top hole.
I have pictures of the set-up that our rep to the '08 ITCC used. Most, if not all the gear he uses, could be found in a gear bag of a seasoned climber. PM me IF you want me to send you the pictures.
BTW Jamin, you seem to have left a caribiner out of the top hole of the handled acscender. I have seen double handled ascender come off the line when "NOT" having the line captured by a carininer in the top hole.
I have pictures of the set-up that our rep to the '08 ITCC used. Most, if not all the gear he uses, could be found in a gear bag of a seasoned climber. PM me IF you want me to send you the pictures.
- Location
- NJ
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Not trying to get at anything special there "all knowing", was just trying to provide some info on something you don't use. I thought the Buzz was for ideas not insults.
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HUH?????
you asked a question no????
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Can you do that with a Lockjack or the other types of SRT methods?
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all I did was answer it?????????
Not trying to get at anything special there "all knowing", was just trying to provide some info on something you don't use. I thought the Buzz was for ideas not insults.
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HUH?????
you asked a question no????
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Can you do that with a Lockjack or the other types of SRT methods?
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all I did was answer it?????????
- Location
- Longmont, CO
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Jamin...add up the cost of all of the gear in your picture. I'll bet dollars to donuts that you have more $$$ there than the cost of a Uni.
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You'r forgetting that every piece of gear listed below is not only used for this system. So, these tools are used for other applications that the Uni could not be used for.
Petzl Rope Grab $62
2 Petzl carabs $36
1 Kong Dbl Ascender $159
Omni Swivel Block $72
Hitch Climber Pulley $67
2 Petzl OK $44
Spliced Bee Line $22
Total $462
Uniscender $450 (You win)
And FWIW. SRT isn't proven to be the fastest technique for all tree climbing applications. If it were. We all would have converted to the technique a long time ago.
Jamin...add up the cost of all of the gear in your picture. I'll bet dollars to donuts that you have more $$$ there than the cost of a Uni.
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You'r forgetting that every piece of gear listed below is not only used for this system. So, these tools are used for other applications that the Uni could not be used for.
Petzl Rope Grab $62
2 Petzl carabs $36
1 Kong Dbl Ascender $159
Omni Swivel Block $72
Hitch Climber Pulley $67
2 Petzl OK $44
Spliced Bee Line $22
Total $462
Uniscender $450 (You win)
And FWIW. SRT isn't proven to be the fastest technique for all tree climbing applications. If it were. We all would have converted to the technique a long time ago.
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- Retired in Minneapolis
Let me say right away, I never want to come off as being argumentative or defensive about SRT. There are a few things that I 'know' and many things that I 'think' are correct. Saying that SRT is the future of tree climbing is something that I know. How much of a future will depend on some variables. I predict that within a generation we'll see a shift.
Of course some of the gear has multiple uses and most of those pieces have already been purchased.
My point is that the Uni isn't that expensive.
Since SRT has been my passion for many years I've really done a lot of work perfecting the climbing system and figuring out how to make it work. When I climb with people on DdRT I am never slower. When people climb on the Uni and I climb DdRT they are faster. Over the years I've climbed next to some good climbers and have drawn out critical feeback from them. During our discussions they have all said that if they were inclined they would use the Uni and could all see that it was more efficient. Would they use it 100% of the time? Nope, but probably 80% plus.
When I trained a couple of employees to climb they could see me using SRT and they were in DdRT. They all wanted to climb SRT. I told them when they bought the gear they could. Since I still needed to be a production climber during their training I didn't share the Uni with them very often.
I took a friend climbing on RADS. She took to it easily. Then, she saw many climbers at last years TCI Rendezvous in Atlanta. They were using DdRT. I kept my mouth shut and let her watch them. It wasn't too long before she turned to me and said, 'That looks REALLY hard! Your way is so much easier' I asked her if she would ever be interested in climbing that way. 'NO WAY!'...with rolled eyes and emphasis. There were some good climbers there too, not all rookie climbers event though it was a rec climbing gathering.
Crazy Jimmy came up last night at 10pm to get my extra Uni. He'll be flying it for a few days and will start a new thread with his experiences.
Of course some of the gear has multiple uses and most of those pieces have already been purchased.
Since SRT has been my passion for many years I've really done a lot of work perfecting the climbing system and figuring out how to make it work. When I climb with people on DdRT I am never slower. When people climb on the Uni and I climb DdRT they are faster. Over the years I've climbed next to some good climbers and have drawn out critical feeback from them. During our discussions they have all said that if they were inclined they would use the Uni and could all see that it was more efficient. Would they use it 100% of the time? Nope, but probably 80% plus.
When I trained a couple of employees to climb they could see me using SRT and they were in DdRT. They all wanted to climb SRT. I told them when they bought the gear they could. Since I still needed to be a production climber during their training I didn't share the Uni with them very often.
I took a friend climbing on RADS. She took to it easily. Then, she saw many climbers at last years TCI Rendezvous in Atlanta. They were using DdRT. I kept my mouth shut and let her watch them. It wasn't too long before she turned to me and said, 'That looks REALLY hard! Your way is so much easier' I asked her if she would ever be interested in climbing that way. 'NO WAY!'...with rolled eyes and emphasis. There were some good climbers there too, not all rookie climbers event though it was a rec climbing gathering.
Crazy Jimmy came up last night at 10pm to get my extra Uni. He'll be flying it for a few days and will start a new thread with his experiences.
matdand
Participating member
- Location
- Montreal, Qc
In what situation would you use a system like the one Jamin set up on his SRT rope. Why would you use this instead of just climbing to the top using SRT then tying in DRT and work? Just wondering.
- Location
- NJ
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In what situation would you use a system like the one Jamin set up on his SRT rope.
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I use it to prune pin oaks, or trees with a very thick canopy. It was and still is a very good srt style. Could be alittle less gear, prusick cord instead of rope grab, just biner and ring/micro pulley, stead of biner and omni.
It allows you to work off the srt at any point of your adcent rather then having to go all the way to the top tie in and come back down.
In what situation would you use a system like the one Jamin set up on his SRT rope.
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I use it to prune pin oaks, or trees with a very thick canopy. It was and still is a very good srt style. Could be alittle less gear, prusick cord instead of rope grab, just biner and ring/micro pulley, stead of biner and omni.
It allows you to work off the srt at any point of your adcent rather then having to go all the way to the top tie in and come back down.
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