Tying in

I find it interesting that some of you guys in other parts of the country are renting cranes instead of owning them. So many tree companies in New England own multiple cranes its ridiculous.

And BostonBulls co uses these huge friggin' cranes that don't even have to leave the shop, they can pick trees whole from miles away....(o.k. mebbe thats a slight exaggeration
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The arguement that any one way of tying in is better or more correct than another is crazy. There is a company around here that was credited by TCIA mag as being one of the first to use cranes for tree work and they have been tying in 'norms way' way since the beginning (minus the FS).

if you guys argue this much over tying in I can't imagine how long the thread about spikes/no spikes, stay in the tree or descend, box cuts etc....would be
 
The crane company we use have all of there linsences and they are Certified Crane Operators and there cranes are inspected and Certified. They perform at a very high level and have no problem giving the climber a ride when needed.The always have gates on the hook just not locking. If they are locking they are only locked by a cotter pin.
 
We generally use a 165 ton crane. Not really something you want to own. The counter weights come on a lowboy tractor trailer, requiring a second truck and driver. Plus, If you own it and it doesnt work at least 8 hours a day, your losing money. It costs money for it to just sit and not produce. Does anyone here have the need for that? Really? Why own when you can rent. Build the additional cost into the bids. Im willing to bet those who own cranes dont build as much into the bid. EI- figure they can bid it cheaper cuz they own the crane. And MOST tree companies own jib trucks or kbooms, Im willing to bet very few actually own truck cranes. BB being the exception. What size are your cranes BB?
 
first off I don't own the co. just bleed for them! haha

we own (2) two sixty ton grove all terrain cranes. model #3055. how anyone does crane work without an all terrain blows my mind. we can get into more places that a short wheelbase bucket truck!
 
27.5 Pioneer

Have done all work in house, never used anything bigger. Nor have I had to turn any work away.
 

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first off I don't own the co. just bleed for them! haha

we own (2) two sixty ton grove all terrain cranes. model #3055. how anyone does crane work without an all terrain blows my mind. we can get into more places that a short wheelbase bucket truck!

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We just get the biggest crane possible, pull a permit to block the street and reach as far as we can.

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Hahaha...gotta love the flat lands. AT cranes are very useful round here.

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Yeah I hear you.......having 1/4 of the ground pressure, almost twice the capacity with just our main boom no jib, 4' less outrigger spread, almost 10' shorter, the ability to raise and lower the crane 18" in each direction (up and down/side to side/front to rear), and close to a zero turn radius is horrible!

And I am comparing our 60 ton to a 30-38 ton national!!!!!

Plenty of other options that arent available on boom trucks or crane trucks too.

But I do understand that every part of the coutry is different.
 
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close up of the Tidano ball......kinda like a torpedo

what do you all think of this tie in?

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Nice setup. With that tie in point it should make both parties happy, as the tie in point is in the middle.
 
Is it possible to fabricate something to the ball so you can install your your friction saver there, something low profile?
That way you will not be on the load line or the hook.
 
Figure I will throw some more gas on this fire. I’ve tried this before and not had the time to go into detail but here it is. The big problem is there is no way to standardize due to the wide range of configurations out there. Most people rent a crane and use what shows up. I’ll make this short here are a few pics. I use a 60 or 85 ton Liebherr with a European ball. I like this setup because the becket and all connectors protected by the ball. I think if you are using an American style ball the best thing to do is to drop the ball and insert a connector with a master link and put the ball back on. No it dose not take a long time to do this.
 

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