Two Rope Climbing

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Phil

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Anybody seen the "American Clacker" yet? Buddy showed his to me and I loved it so much I made my own. I think he had Arbsession make him one. Its essentially two ring'n'ring friction savers that are bound by a floating ring. The savers are oriented opposite each other and each large ring of the savers will jam on the capture ring during retrieval. I use a DMM locking micro xsre spiked in the end of the line a retrieval ball. The xsre also allows for easy attachment of a throw weight so you can chuck the end of your line trough the canopy of the tree and then not have to go to the...
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Phil

Post in thread 'Canopy Anchors'

Anybody seen the "American Clacker" yet? Buddy showed his to me and I loved it so much I made my own. I think he had Arbsession make him one. Its essentially two ring'n'ring friction savers that are bound by a floating ring. The savers are oriented opposite each other and each large ring of the savers will jam on the capture ring during retrieval. I use a DMM locking micro xsre spiked in the end of the line a retrieval ball. The xsre also allows for easy attachment of a throw weight so you can chuck the end of your line trough the canopy of the tree and then not have to go to the...
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So the function is x2 ropes on one anchor/crotch?

The only practical application I can see if if using one redirected from this point. Personally I’d use separate crotches for practicality and redundancy
 
I'm trying to understand it. Looking on a phone.


I think it is for redirected retrieval ease.

Pull one rope out.
Retrieve with the other rope.

Allows canobasing, about which I'm a bit fuzzy.
 
@southsoundtree
In reference to the helicopter belay whip mentions
He’s referring to , if I’m not mistaken,
having a delta link on swivel from your rope bridge connecting 2 devices directly to delta that direct attach to swivels at base of climbing mutlicender. It is basically allowance for basically limitless vectors for rope angles
 
@southsoundtree , yes, Aaron has it right I believe. When I visited Paul, we really had a great time coming up with names for things. He had a way of actually leaning inward with one hand way forward on longer limbwalk returns. Lean. Lean on me. Who wrote that somg? Bill Withers. Then limbwalking was called Bill Withers.

The Helicopter Belay was similar. Gordon was offering RE Nano swivels built into the Bulldog Bone as an attachment point. I was running a swivel on my bridge, which then went to a delta screw link which housed the two Bones w/ Nanos. The Bone would account as a belay device.

When running twin, parallel stationary ropes, the Bones sat side by side, close enough to operate with one hand. Once on rope was redirected, the swivels would allow each Bone to orient freely as needed. If one rope was under load and the other was fully slack, the slack Bone could be removed from its line and spin any which way…like a helicopter. A helicopter belay if you will.

Kind of a cool name for it so it stuck, and man was it clean and effective. I miss climbing that way. Such a clean way of getting around as if on just one rope until you want two and the system magically accommodates. Position anywhere in space.

The Helicopter Belay is great for Ghosting through redirects! Like a ghost through a wall, one rope passes a redirect while you are fully supported by the other, then you hang in the redirected line while passing the second rope through the same redirect. Ghosting. =D
 
oceans said:
@southsoundtree , yes, Aaron has it right I believe. When I visited Paul, we really had a great time coming up with names for things. He had a way of actually leaning inward with one hand way forward on longer limbwalk returns. Lean. Lean on me. Who wrote that somg? Bill Withers. Then limbwalking was called Bill Withers.

The Helicopter Belay was similar. Gordon was offering RE Nano swivels built into the Bulldog Bone as an attachment point. I was running a swivel on my bridge, which then went to a delta screw link which housed the two Bones w/ Nanos. The Bone would account as a belay device.

When running twin, parallel stationary ropes, the Bones sat side by side, close enough to operate with one hand. Once on rope was redirected, the swivels would allow each Bone to orient freely as needed. If one rope was under load and the other was fully slack, the slack Bone could be removed from its line and spin any which way…like a helicopter. A helicopter belay if you will.

Kind of a cool name for it so it stuck, and man was it clean and effective. I miss climbing that way. Such a clean way of getting around as if on just one rope until you want two and the system magically accommodates. Position anywhere in space.

The Helicopter Belay is great for Ghosting through redirects! Like a ghost through a wall, one rope passes a redirect while you are fully supported by the other, then you hang in the redirected line while passing the second rope through the same redirect. Ghosting. =D
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I've always loved your crystal clear writing when describing techniques Eric. I'd forgotten about the Bill Withers...ha, miss those days mate.
 
oceans said:
The Helicopter Belay is great for Ghosting through redirects! Like a ghost through a wall, one rope passes a redirect while you are fully supported by the other, then you hang in the redirected line while passing the second rope through the same redirect. Ghosting.
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Yeah ! Although if you've ever seen me climb in my case it would be crashing thru the trees . . . no Ghosting here. Great videos - thank you.
 
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