Twisting ropes

[Willber]

@evo I see what you mean the more "bumpy" the more grippy it should be. Though I haven't climbed in 16 or 3 strand ropes. I do see how 3strand ropes could be more grippy than 16braid ropes, because the strand are more perpendicular to the rope than in 24 or 16braid ropes.
But, it seems 32braid has the critical quantity of intersections of braid strands, to create enough filament surface contrast, for a "sandpaper" type grip.
Though 32braids would have even better grip if they had 3 carrier strands that made up each braid strand.

I'm only saying 32braid is grippier than 24braid, because Drenaline is more easier to hold ones weight on than Samson Voyager - both these ropes have about equal "broken in" wear, of the cover.

Yes, a rope like the 48braid Scandere, the intersections are too insignificantly small, not causing great enough contrast, to provide grip.

 

[moss]

Do you often have a lot of excess rope tail on the ground when you're working? With shorter (or "choked up" longer) lines you won't build up so much twist below you. If the tail can't be free then you're capturing twist whenever you descend. Having good cover/core balance in your lines is always a good thing but twist will happen with a captured tail.
-AJ

 

[Matias]

Do you often have a lot of excess rope tail on the ground when you're working? With shorter (or "choked up" longer) lines you won't build up so much twist below you. If the tail can't be free then you're capturing twist whenever you descend. Having good cover/core balance in your lines is always a good thing but twist will happen with a captured tail.
-AJ

I do typically run my long line just because it's the diameter I like best now. I will make a point of choking it up to fit the tree. Good point there Andrew, thank you.

 

[TreeVB]

I have noticed that on longer recents with a friction save AND a swivel on my bridge or device, my rope twists pretty badly. Try to eliminate one and see if it helps? Maybe one of the downfalls of less friction.

 

[islandarb]

Just buy more rope, milk it and all your hockling probs will disappear. I never have these probs even with rigging ropes as I constantly changevends and stretch rope out and arouud poles. Did some 12mm sirius today. No hockles and it is pretty new.

 

[Christrees]

I always have the same problem when I’m now using the ring and just use the rope bridge. I have the swivel version too I don’t remember which you said you have.


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[Christrees]

Just buy more rope, milk it and all your hockling probs will disappear. I never have these probs even with rigging ropes as I constantly changevends and stretch rope out and arouud poles. Did some 12mm sirius today. No hockles and it is pretty new.

Just want to say thanks for the idea.. this is a great tip


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