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That's a good idea didjon, I just wonder how strong it is. Especially with a line coming out the top at any kind of funky angle. I have heard that the fairleads on the grcs have been bent from lines coming out the top at awkward angles...does anyone know anyone who has used this? I wonder if it violates and patent laws seeing how its pretty much exactly the same as the grcs.....



Ralph
 
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Somehow I doubt the GRCS was ever granted a patent?

But I could be wrong.

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I could be wrong but I think it certain parts of the GRCS, are or were protected by patent in the US, Jon. Not the whole thing but specific parts.

But nomatter, ropeclutch or not.....to me it looks like a blatant rip-off of the GRCS

So who makes it?

Didjon, do you know?
 
Thanks Reg.

Then there should be a seven digit patent number on them somewhere if they have US patent protection.

jomoco
 
I can't imagine using a rope clutch to hold a rigging load to change over the winch/bollard in the middle of a lower.

As a fairlead I think that it's a bit too delicate. If the hook fairleads on the GRCS get bent they bend back. A rope clutch would be trash.

Patents shmatents...unless its an international patent backed up a huddle of lawyers they aren't that valuable.

R&D=ripoff and destroy

Who owns the patent on bollards anyway?

http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-8493484/stock-photo-old-stone-bollard-at-the-quayside.html
 
Yeah, try enforcing an international patent in communist China!

jomoco
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I can't imagine using a rope clutch to hold a rigging load to change over the winch/bollard in the middle of a lower.

As a fairlead I think that it's a bit too delicate. If the hook fairleads on the GRCS get bent they bend back. A rope clutch would be trash.

Patents shmatents...unless its an international patent backed up a huddle of lawyers they aren't that valuable.

R&D=ripoff and destroy

Who owns the patent on bollards anyway?


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Well I hear Ken Palmers US patent on the Friction saver has held up pretty well, Tom

No a bollard is not patentable on the whole, but certain specifics are. Could be Greg's interchangeable frame, or the hinged parts that wrap around the tree. Who knows.

Also, I think there are various versions of the harken, some better than others....and I think Greg might have exclusivity on the GRCS version i.e the harken that fits that winch-bollard that we have seen wouter (treebuzz member) use is not the same as Gregs.

I could be wrong, but I dont usually forget things spoken face-to-face.
 
I've always marveled at the way CopyRight protection lasts for friggin ever, while design and utility patents last only a few decades or so, only if you stay on top of paying your renewal fees on time.

I shoulda been a song/book writer, or a poet.

jomoco
 
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That black thing looks easily broken with a log smashing into it.

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knock knock, hello??? I agree completely. chunk, swoosh, SMASH!

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So does most lowering devices. Change your rigging
 
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You're right, Reg. It's a US patent...based on an international design. Like I said...a huddle of lawyers...

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Nicely put, Tom.

and on that note, I believe Gregs design came from his own mind. Wasn't borrowed!
 
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Yes...original thought gets more respect from me. I remember talking with Greg at the first Expo he displayed at. With success he's still the same guy...like you Reg.

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Well I'm not sure how you measure success in this game Tom, because I dont know too many wealthy treemen. More like, 'Im still here, still working!'
 
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Yes...original thought gets more respect from me. I remember talking with Greg at the first Expo he displayed at. With success he's still the same guy...like you Reg.

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Well I'm not sure how you measure success in this game Tom, because I dont know too many wealthy treemen. More like, 'Im still here, still working!'

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once heard about a salesman/arborist who worked for a big tree company that covered the Georgetown/Foreign Embassy district of Washington DC/some northern Virginia areas/eastern Maryland etc who retired in his mid/late 40s a millionaire. He was on some kind of super bonus award scheme.

Not sure how common this is in the bigger metro areas? anyone know? heard of anything similar in other areas?
 
Ohhhh...monetary wealth is NOT the first measure on the success list. Being alive and maintaining integrity are much higher.

Grover,

I wonder if that guy's name is Unicorn, a mythical creature ;)
 
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As Charles Colton said, "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery!"

Tony

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"but copying is a sin!" or theft.

Imitating is one thing, copying is riding the coat tails of a huge amount of thought, work and dedication,nevermind investment in dollars.
 
Rope shield,

I agree. it is a shame when someone purposely "steals." However, it is a good litmus test of the idea!

If the inventor of the "treerex" has his eye on excessive monetary reward, he is in for a shock! Not only are the device's flaws fairly apparent, the fact that it is so similar to another proven device in a community this small full of often fiercely loyal patrons, and it will be an uphill battle from the start!

Not all thefts need to be tried in a court of law to prove fruitless and ultimately a bad choice.

Tony
 
Anyone can copy any patented device for their own personal use. It's only when they produce them for commercial sales that they're subject to being sued successfully in court.

jomoco
 
I know that TreeRex has a Facebook page, not many pictures of it being used tho. Only a few pics of it setup on a tree. Not too much information on it either. I'll go get the link and post it in a few.




Ralph
 
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